************************************************************************* * * * THE INDIE-LIST DIGEST #10 (Spectacular tenth issue!) * * "The new Ginsu cuts through the old Ginsu, and still never needs * * * sharpening!" * * * Moderated by Mark Cornick, Joshua Houk and Liz Clayton. * * * Mailed worldwide weekly. Over 100 subscribers! ************************************************************************* From: Mark, Joshua and Liz, the moderators THERE WILL BE NO DIGEST NEXT WEEK IN OBSERVANCE OF THANKSGIVING. "I know all y'all are gonna be gettin' busy with some turkey. And if you're vegetarian, I know you're gonna be gettin' busy with some salad." - B-Love, funk DJ at WXJM ************************************************************************* From: Mark Cornick, Working Holiday drone #514, co-moderator <stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu> This is our tenth issue. Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Very little to report from the poultry capital of Virginia this week. I finally got my hands on the first Versus 7" (great, but I like their new one better) and also got the first 7" from a new Louisville, KY band called Hula Hoop. This one totally rocks out. Get it. I'd like to say thanks to Volker Stewart and Bill Peregoy for sending 7"ers to my radio station recently. Liquor Bike has been doing well with our hard progressive and metal DJs, and Versus was chosen as one of our CMJ Adventure Picks, which means we expect it to go big at our station. If anyone else out there puts out music, do please send a copy to WXJM, Anthony-Seeger Hall, James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA 22807, Attn: Mark. Thanks. Also, now that Courtney is sufficiently healed from her unfortunate accident of a few months back, our guitar-and-drum duo, now known as Sweet Tooth, will be back on its feet shortly. Rockin' out like Bratmobile or Mecca Normal, I guess. Truly amateur stuff. It's gonna rawk. Well, enough babble. The time has come to talk of many things... ************************************************************************* From: Liz Clayton, co-moderator <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu> Well, I think it's best if I begin this week's submission with an enumeration of some of the really neat new stuff that's just come out or is about to come out in the near (or distant) future. To wit: Present ------- Belly - "Gepetto" EP. I don't have this yet, but I can't wait to get my hands on it. It's out now as a four song 4AD import CD5/12", or as a ltd. edition 2 song 7" with postcard enclosures. Dinosaur Jr. - "Get Me" import single. A real disappointment. This sounds like a weak version of one of the slower tracks (which were brilliant) at the end of _Green Mind_. Oh well. The CD is backed with a live version of "Quest" and "Hot Burrito #2" by the Flying Burrito Brothers. Yikes. Future: ------- Pavement - "Watery, Domestic" EP. Due out next week. 4 tracks, Matador. Velocity Girl - "Crazy Town"/"Creepy" 7". SubPop. Within a week or two. [ Yay! - Mark ] Distant Future: --------------- (this is all SubPop stuff, bear with me. I just got hold of a "projected releases" list from them and there's a LOT of good stuff on it.) Jan 22 (my birthday!) Fastbacks - "Zucker" LP Feb 5 Wipers - "Is This Real?" CD reissue of 1st LP (+ "Alien Boy" EP) Feb 19 Fastbacks "Gone to the Moon" CD+3 Feb 26 Sebadoh LP Mar 19 Velocity Girl LP May 14 Love Battery LP June Club Single: Severin --------- In other news, I saw Negativland last weekend. Wow. Truly a memorable and impressive show. The strangest thing wasn't even part of their act--Mark Hosler got everyone in the front of the near-sold out club to SIT DOWN on the floor before they started, so people would be able to see what was going on onstage. Really neat stuff, with an audience- stage bread fight, burnt toast smoke, multimedia weirdness, and more. If you got to see them on this tour, you're one lucky person. Also: pick up the new Mondo 2000 to read Hosler interviewing the Edge(!). Th' Edge didn't even know who he was talking to until about the third hour of the 3-hour interview. Great stuff. Anyway, I guess that's about all I have to say this week. No shows worth anything are coming up in this area until The Bats on Dec 14 (hopefully I can score an interview). Y'all have a happy Thanksgiving, and save me an extra slice of pumpkin pie (with lots of whipped cream, mind you). -- Liz Update from the next day: I got the Belly EP. Dig this: They cover "Hot Burrito #2" by the Flying Burrito Brothers, too. Two covers of this in two weeks? Jesus christ. Also: Vomit Launch are breaking up, just as I started to get into them. Great. ************************************************************************* From: Joshua Houk, co-moderator <houk@athena.cs.uga.edu> Hey - tons of reviews this time out. Week after next I should have a bunch of live reviews worth of note including Negativland, Jesus Lizard, and Surgery. Whoopee! o Flesh Eaters - 'Sex Diary Of Mr. Vampire' [SST] This is Chris D's blues rock band that's been around - god, I think a decade? Wow. Chris is showing his age on the front cover, too. Nevermind the cheesy cover pics (especially the back with one of the femme backup vocalists looking very heavy-metalish and seated way too cliched close to Chris D. Listen to the music instead - nice blues punk that always kicks into a great groove a couple times in every song. Vocals are annoying, though, but this is still a fine disc. o Beat Happening - 'Black Candy' [K/Sub Pop] Reissue of the orignal release on K/Rough Trade. This is in my opinion Beat Happening's best record, but you'll find a lot of people who'll disagree with me. Calvin does most of the singing, which'll have every hormone addled male in fits that Heather only sings on one song. Every song here is great, ranging from swamp trash to pop to garage... Absolutely brilliant! Pick up this one. o Gibson Bros. - 'Mean Mistreater' (7" ep) [Homestead] This was originally scheduled to be released over a year ago, but Homestead balked when Billy Norton and Miriam Linna brought up a lawsuit against the Bros. over an A-Bones sample. Tensions did not relax after this Memphis duo put the poetic message "Assfuck Billy Norton" on their 'Men Who Loved Couch Dancing' lp. Anyhow - things have eased a bit, and finally Homestead has seen fit to release this three song 7" that puts the Gibson Bros. at their finest. White trash, garage and blues wrapped up in one nice package. Also has Jon Spencer on guitar. Really good stuff. o Liquor Bike - "Thirst Day" (7" ep) [Penultimate] Not being a huge fan of the DC sound, it took me two listens to get into this single. The a-side is kinda standard, with nothing much to propell it out of the pack. The two numbers on the flip however blend a nice nice dose of pop to the proceedings, and are absolutely essential! Good stuff. o Crimpshrine - 'Duct Tape Soup' (lp only) [Lookout!] An almost comprhensive collection of every this East Bay punk band ever recorded. That's very swell, cause Crimpshrine ruled the world during their time in existence. Pop-punk songs about love, anger, hope, trust, love, beauty, summer, picking up the pieces, and love. Incredibly great stuff, and you'll regret it if you don't buy this. Really. o Versus - "Bright Light" b/w "Forest Fire" [Pop Narcotic] Let's hear it for indie-pop!! This trio's been compared to Mission of Burma a lot, but I detect a big Unrest influnce in these grooves. Nice poppy stuff that you'll groove along to without any complaints. o Dambuilders - "Smell" b/w "Colin's Heroes" [Pop Narcotic] Catchy poppy stuff that sometimes gets a bit dated-sounding for my tastes, but everyone else and their dog will like this probably. Call me weird. This is good though - with nice strings throw in on the flipside. (No - they don't sound like Camper Van Beethoven. Yes - that is a compliment). o Hayride/Harvey Milk - 'Friends Forever' (split 7") [Self Rising] Hayride shines through with three songs of flannel punk, the only dud being "Clampy Hold". The other two songs are impossibly catchy. Harvey Milk does their brand of Melvins-a la-Steel Pole Bath Tub rock. "Blueberry Dooky" sludges around in an okay way - but "Smile" will leave you in the dust in 6.5 seconds flat. o Giant Sand - 'Ramp' [Amazing Black Sand] HOWIE GELB RULES!!! Country rock with obvious Dylan influence, but coupled with some great guitar snazzwork. High on the sappy quotient. Great diversity of songs without being schizophrenic. Awesome songwriting. Screams "buy me!!!". Don't pass this band up - especially if you like good songwriters. o Fastbacks - "They Don't Care" b/w "Out Of The Charts" [Popllama] Kinda emptyish pop, but still way above everyone else. I'm a huge Fastbacks fan, so I'm kinda disappointed with the single, but I still come back to it again and again, pop junkie that I am. All for now. Bye folks. Joshua Houk houk@athena.cs.uga.edu ************************************************************************* From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu> I've spent waaaaaaay too much money on music recently, but oh well. Here is a bunch of reviews... Big Black, _Song About Fucking_ (Touch & Go) Yeah, I know it is old, and yeah, I know it has been available for a while. So sue me. I never got around to buying it. This is Big Black's second LP, and it just can't quite match the sheer majesty of Atomizer, which is one of the best albums by anybody ever. Anyway, saying this isn't as good as Atomizer is like saying somebody isn't quite as rich as Bill Gates (and no, he isn't subscribed to the grunge-list. That's Bill Gallagher, whose user id is billga@microsoft.com. Har har). This is still primo guitar noise with a great bassist and a horrible drum machine. Classic. A must buy. Big Black, _Pig Pile_ (Touch & Go) This is that live album that for a long time was supposed to be released by Blast First records, and was originally called _Last Live_. However, it has been delayed, delayed and delayed some more. It is finally out. This is a recording from their last tour, and the sound quality is pretty decent. Albini's singing, however, doesn't come across very well. I guess it is a must buy for a Big Black maniac, but it isn't really necessary for somebody who just likes them, because there isn't really anything new. The Mortals, _Ritual Dimension of Sound_ (Estrus Records) Leave it to Estrus to release an album like this. This is rock 'n' roll in its purist form. There isn't any pretension that you might frequently find on an 'alternative' or 'industrial' album. There isn't the pompous self-importance you find on many punk albums. There isn't the burnout of ideas evident in many genres such as techno. Instead, you just get rock 'n' roll, pure and simple. No surprises, but there isn't anything that they do wrong. Just something you can pop on and go 'cool' too. Highly recommended. Samiam, Billy (New Red Archives) I'm not sure what most people call these guys, but I consider them power pop. That is, making the same sort of music as Dag Nasty, ALL, and others. The deal here, is that their line up has two guitars, bass, drums and a separate vocalist. This allows them the freedom to pack a good punch in the lyrics while still maintaining a real nice guitar sound. The tempos here aren't as fast as many other bands, but the vocals are sufficiently emotional that it doesn't really matter. Very well produced as well, which is a must for this sort of music. Nuke your Washington D.C. 'emo-core' records. Those guys don't know emotion from a hole in the ground. This sort of stuff is what 'emo-core' should sound like. Highly recommended. Green Day, _1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours_ (Lookout) After I reviewed Kerplunk!, I received several messages to the effect of "Get the first one! It is much better!". Well, I did get their first one, and it is, indeed, better than Kerplunk!. I won't say much better, because Kerplunk! is still a great album, but this is an amazing one. The CD, which is what I have, contains the EPs _1,000 Hours_ and Slappy as well as the LP 39/Smooth, hence the name. To review: Green Day didn't event the genre of punk pop (playing pop songs over basically punk music), but they have just about perfected it. As far as I am concerned, this album is a classic as well. Buy or die. Negativland, Points (Seeland Records) As far as I'm concerned, Negativland can do no wrong. Bizarre nosies collide with bizarre samples and bizarre vocal stuff. Adds up to a bizarre recording. I like most of their other stuff better than this, but that doesn't mean this is bad. Plus, I love the Wurlitzer action on track 2. I must admit, however, that you really only need to buy this if you are a drooling Negativland fanatic. Lesser fans should just give _Escape From Noise_ another spin. The Orb, U.F.Orb (Big Life/Mercury) For those of you who don't know, the Orb is probably the most laid back band on earth. They make corpses look lively. Just totally tranced out stuff. The bleeps and other stuff completely conjure up the feeling of floating in space, with the occasional visit by something else (a beat), but still mostly empty space. Beautiful stuff to zone out to, but it does take some getting used to. Highly recommended if you like this sort of stuff, though. Act quick and you get a bonus disc with over an hour of extra music. My copy totals 2 hours, 20 minutes of music. Pop Will Eat Itself, _The Looks Or The Lifestyle_ (RCA) Somewhere along the line, Pop Will Eat Itself (PWEI) acquired a real live drummer. Also, there is quite a bit of guitar on this one, and I'd bet my friend's left arm that a real bass makes an appearance here. So, what I'm saying is that despite themselves, PWEI has turned into a real band. The immediate comparison that comes to mind is EMF, although they are not nearly as boring as EMF. But, it is still that same basic format of rock. Lots of samples, driving rhythms, and mostly 'rappish' vocals. I love it. If you sort of wished EMF really knew how to rock, check this puppy out. Samiam, s/t (New Red Archive) This CD is a compilation of their first LP and an EP. Unfortunately, I just can't get into this as much as Billy. The sound quality is just too murky, and ends up burying the songs. This record just doesn't get going. I wish I could say otherwise. Maybe I'll like it more if I listen to it more. [ Later Joshua added the following... ] Well, I've give it a few more listens, and it clicked. The sound quality could still be better, but these are some damn fine songs. See what I mention about Billy above, and apply that here. Takes a bit more listening, but I've decided that this is a good album after all. Scherzo, _Suffering And Joy_ (Lookout) Yeah! Now we are talking. Sounds like prime Dag Nasty, but with more interesting guitar. Blows away all those wimpy emo-core bands away (and I even like alot of those wimpy emo-core bands). Just flat out rocks with some good tight playing and great songs. Reminds me alot of Screeching Weasel, but with more serious songs. Highly recommended. Phew. I also have Lungfish's _Talking Songs For Walking_ and Bad Religion's Suffer, but I haven't listened to them enough to review them (but so far, they sound pretty good). ************************************************************************* From: Pretty Rainy Out <kbennett@seattleu.edu> Okay, y'all, I feel like some turn of the century traveling correspondent posting my dispatches from the strange exotic worlds I travel through.... :) I went out on Friday night to the RKCNDY to see Hammerbox, whom I haven't seen perform before. I've never been to RKCNDY either, and I was kind of disgruntled by the space. Maybe it was the concrete floor. Maybe it was the fact that they serve cheap beer in cups and the sticky beer on the floor was incredibly dense and held my shoes like superglue. Maybe it was the fact that when a band starts to get a little popular, college kids with more attitude than musical appreciation come to shows and walk around pushing and shoving with no respect for humanity or for the music. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this kind of thing. (Last few shows I went to, I consciously made an effort to scope how many people were there older than me; to make myself feel better -- and I'm not even 30 yet! Is this sick or what? Is my age group represented by my "ex" who is still pining for early-80's "skinny tie" music that was on when we were in college, and listening to the very popular upper-dial station that plays all that old stuff -- is this becoming the "classic rock" for the fiscally/ demographically ascending upper-20somethings?) Anyway, Hammerbox was pretty good, but because of my disgruntlement and weariness at having to sit through several other bands, I couldn't really get into the energy. They did mostly stuff (very good songs) that's not on their C/Z album; I guess it's from their forthcoming album. I don't know if that's gonna be on C/Z, too; there was some gossip yelled by a fellow audience member to me over the noise that sounded like they'd been picked up by a larger label (they sure are good enough to be snatched, plus we all know about record company reps hanging around Seattle....). They asked the audience to suggest titles for their album, because they couldn't think of one. Anyway, I've always really like Carrie's voice recorded -- that kind of deep, soulful, howling sound, sounds great over loud grungy melodic guitars and weird time signature changes -- but she came across as more "screechy" in this setting, at least to my ears. She has a lot of energy, though, and is fun to watch. The other bands were Clyde, whom I only caught a couple songs of but sounded pretty good; Christ on a Crutch, which I didn't like because it seemed mostly like good old'fashioned "white ugly guy sings hardcore" without a lot of originality to it (at least it was loud and thrashy, I'll give it that); and Trashcan School, which was pretty entertaining -- 3 guitars, some sax which was the grungiest use of sax I'd ever heard and certainly sounded more like animals being run over than any sax I've heard before (in this context, that's a compliment), and a really cool cover of the Fall's "I See Hobgoblins." Not much more to say. Just want to voice a general pet peeve into the ether, to no one in particular, which is that it really bugs me when some people on GRUNGE-L or usenet start railing about how much they hate Seattle or how Seattle is dead, just because they've heard 2 or 3 overhyped and overplayed bands from this neck of the woods -- we're as sick of the hype as they are, but I think the solution is not to put down Seattle but to start realizing there's so many other, varied bands here, and seek out Seattle sounds rather than "THE Seattle Sound." P.S. Sky Cries Mary opened for Shriekback last week, and after a long tour they seemed glad to be home. They seemed tired but picked up the energy after a few songs. I hear they have a new album coming out early next year. Tomorrow, I go see Throwing Muses and Sugar.... :) Lena who's running out of money but is happy ************************************************************************* From: peregoyb@roadrunner.pictel.com (Bill Peregoy) I've been promising some sort of Boston "scene report" for a while now. Since all the shows I saw in Boston over the past few weeks are starting to run together, I thought I'd give a brief and biased summary of Boston area bands, labels and stuff... Here goes: Off the top of my head, here are some of the most happenin' bands in Boston these days. Swirlies - You all know these guys. Yeah they sound a little like MBV, but you could pick a lot worse things to sound like. Their EP recently came out on Taang! and it's great. Even if you're KolectorSkum, you need this to get "Tall Ships" and because of the way this record is sequenced. Great debut non-7". Also the Swirlies are playing live again after a few months away from the clubs. Check 'em out with new fill in bass player Morgan. Kudgel - You've heard all this talk of chimp-rock. Well these guys started the whole thing. Noisy, noisy songs with pop melodies hidden somewhere within and the live shows are getting totally out of control. The great thing about Kudgel is they play great shows and never take themselves too seriously. Madbox - On an "on night", Madbox are one of the best bands in Boston and they have a lot more on nights than off nights. They're taking a few months off so you'll have to settle for their single on Cinderblock Records. Also look for a brand new 7" soon. Oh yeah, what do they sound like... loud, tight, heavy, I'd called 'em Boston's answer to Unsane. Spore - The newest Cinderblock Records stars. These guys have only been playing out for a few months, but they've already taken Boston by storm. Aggressive, noisy but catchy songs with the most amazing raw female vocals I've heard in quite a while. Helium - Even newer than Spore, this band consists of Mary Timony (ex-Autoclave) and the rythm section from Dumptruck. This is really Mary's band as she plays guitar and sings her songs. Kind of sparse, emotional stuff and Mary has an amazing voice that sends chills up my spine every time. I think this band shows off Mary's talents a lot better than Autoclave did (and I loved Autoclave). Dambuilders - The Dambuilders are going to be the next big stars out of Boston. Quite simply, the Dambuilders are the most impressive live band I've seen come out of Boston since the Pixies. No, they don't sound anything like them, but I can see them every week and always walk away amazed at how great they are. Deep down they're a pop band, but the songs rock so hard... the lineup is guitar, bass, drums and violin. Joan Wasser is the most unorthadox violin player I've ever seen. Don't expect rootsy stuff like CVB or the Mekons, this is pure rock. (errrm... let's see if this slips past the censors: Check out their new single on Pop Narcotic.) [Close, Bill, really close. Just kidding. :) - Joshua] Green Magnet School - They don't play out much in Boston any more, but what a band! Three guitars, ahhh you know all about 'em. Check out their CD on Sub Pop and their new split single with Six Finger Satellite (also on Sub Pop) Sebadoh - Sometimes I forget these guys are from Boston because they seem like they're from another planet. They're moving a bit away from the lo-fi sound and that's alright with me... makes it easier to concentrate on those great songs. Check out their debut CD on Sub Pop and don't forget the 3 great Homestead releases. It's easy to forget how many great bands there are in this town so I probably forgot a few. And then there are quite a few good bands from Providence, only 45 minutes away. But I'll talk about that some other time. Bill ************************************************************************* From: Lindsay Watt <lindsay@maths.ed.ac.uk> Therapy?/Whipping Boy/In Dust, 15th November, Edinburgh Venue. No tickets on sale for this (apparently Therapy? didn't want to charge more than 5 pounds, and decided not to go through a ticket agency) so I arrived 40 minutes early to be sure of getting in. I needn't have bothered though, because despite Therapy? being a chart band, it wasn't that busy. New Irish band In Dust opened proceedings, and they were pretty good. Sort of like Ministry crossed with early Godflesh, with some terrible dancing from the singer thrown in too. They've got an LP out, the name of which I can't remember at the moment. After that it was The Whipping Boy, who've been around for several years now, and who I've never really cared for. The singer was pretty animated, but unhappily for him, an overactive smoke machine effectively blotted his performance out. Therapy? put on a pretty energetic show, but to my mind they seemed to be trying a little too hard. Better that than not trying hard enough, but the result was that some of their best songs were rendered rather shambolic. They coped better with the straightforward thrashers from the new LP, but I find this stuff a little bland. Anyway, after concentrating largely on the new material, they concluded with a version of Potato Junkie hich included Andy interviewing several members of the audience, and then finished off with a bit of half-hearted instrument smashing. A fairly good gig, but perhaps a little contrived. Lindsay. Oh, by the way Mark, I thought you and your bandmates might be interested to know that your former namesakes Headcleaner have just released their debut LP ("Au Fou", on Eve records). [ Great. Well, we've been the I.C.Socialists for some time now so I guess it doesn't matter. Besides, Sweet Tooth is gonna stomp everything I've ever done anyway. :) - Mark ] ************************************************************************* CREDITS GAFFER: Mark Cornick, stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (Harrisonburg, VA) BEST BOY: Joshua Houk, houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Athens, GA) DOLLY GRIP: Liz Clayton, lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Chicago, IL) PRODUCTION CREW - THANKS YOU GUYS Joshua John Buergel, jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pittsburgh, PA) Lena Bennett, kbennett@seattleu.edu (Seattle, WA) Bill Peregoy, peregoyb@roadrunner.pictel.com (Boston, MA) Lindsay Watt, lindsay@maths.ed.ac.uk (Edinburgh, Scotland) A BLOOFGA PRODUCTION Any similarity to persons living or dead is purely intentional. We'll be back in 14 days. Bye now & don't eat too much... --Mark, Joshua and Liz