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Thank you, and now our feature attraction... ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mark Cornick, i-l moderator <stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu> Wow... on Wednesday we had no articles, and suddenly it's another jam-packed issue. Lots of scene reports, new records and gig reviews coming up. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here watching the Presidential debate (sad) and eating my Richfood Magic Stars (store-brand sugary cereal... you only live once.) BTW, the debate is a lot more fun if you turn down the TV and turn up Th Faith Healers' "Hippy Hole." But back to the B... Sonic Youth, the Boredoms and Superchunk. What a show. Egads. Let's start at the beginning. After waking up my boss at 8.30 AM to pick up the unsold tickets to take to the promoter, I finally managed to roll into Richmond at about 1.30 PM. The show was posted as starting at 12.00 PM. Guess I timed things right eh? (BTW, Joshua didn't make it. Oh well.) Brown's Island is a great place for shows. Sitting between the canal and the James River in Shockhoe Slip in downtown Richmond, with highway and railroad bridges flying all over the place, the State Capitol up on the hill nearby, and the very imposing Federal Reserve Bank skyscraper off to stage left. Very grungey venue. Had some great food, too. Jerk chicken in a pita. Yum. Superchunk opened. I have now postulated a theory I shall call the Theorem of Inverse Hair Correlation: As Laura's hair grows longer, Mac's grows shorter. And vice versa. But enough about hair. It's kinda hard for the Chunk to really impress me these days--I've seen them a million and two times--but they didn't suck. They also had a few new songs which sounded cool. The Boredoms were next. I was never impressed with their LP and this was the first time I'd seen them live. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! Kinda like a weird bastard child of Sexual Milkshake, Foetus, the Sugarcubes and Kung Fu ( <- not a band.) They wailed, pounded, screamed, trumpeted, and basically made a hell of a lot of noise. And their stage show was fantastic. These peeps made my day. By the time the Youth came on, it had started to rain. Thurston joked about it, saying something like "a little rain won't kill you--but I bet I'd have a different opinion if I weren't under this tent." Anyway, they played about half of the new LP, plus "Genetic" (from the 100% EP), "Dirty Boots", "Kool Thing" and "Silver Rocket." And yes, they played "Expressway" as an encore. Pretty courteous pit this time out; first time I've been in and not gotten hit in the face. I don't think anyone necessarily cared that it was raining. A lot of people (including a few grrls) just ditched their shirts and kept rocking. (Although I did see one guy whose emerald green hair dye ended up all over his face and shirt, for the Frankenstein look.) But, anyway, the Youth have yet to disappoint me live, and this show was no exception. Afterwards Thurston started talking with the people up front, getting eventually to some 14-year old kid, whom he asked "Would you like to divorce your parents?" Only gripe was that the set was a little short. Sure, it was raining, but I would've risked getting a cold to hear some more. The drive back to Harrisonburg was long. But the drive, the rain, and the having-to-deal-with-the-promoter-in-order-to-get-in were worth it. Don't miss this show if it's headed yr way! Two up, $25 and 200 miles (I drove 140.) Brief comments on new 7"age I bought on Tuesday: - Lazy Circle, "Hypnotized" (VHF): Laid back, mellow stuff, lots of backwards masking. Reminded me a lot of Pierre Etoile, actually. Doesn't rock the house, but nice nonetheless. - Radio City, "North Sea" (VHF): Non-distinctive but still entertaining indie-rock. No pretense, nothing to live up to, just a bunch of blokes making a racket, ya know? Features Rake's old drummer. - Wingtip Sloat, "Half Past I've Got" (VHF/Sweet Portable Junkets): Only got through the first 7" of this double pack, but liked it a lot. To quote the VHF catalogue, "guaranteed to make you smile if you dig the NZ/DC thing." Nice silk-screened bag/sleeve, too. - Fine Day, "Extinct" (Sunspot): Soon to be the Next Big Washingtonian Thing, if you ask me. Very nice, intelligent angst-punk-pop on this two-track single. You read it here first. They're gonna be huge, I tell ya, huge. - Groove, "Crutch" (Sunspot): Still working on this one. Report next time. - 1.6 Band, "Tongue Family Style" (Sunspot): Four tracks of old-school 'core. Will bring a smile to the face of anyone missing the days of _Flex Your Head._ Even my roommate, who doesn't like anything released by a DC band since 1987, liked it. I would say they're gonna be huge, but I already said that about Fine Day. - Circus Lupus, "Pop Man" (Dischord): Reviewed in the very first indie-list. I still like it. "Produced by Joan Jett", ha ha ha. BTW, Sunspot and VHF are two relatively new DC area labels worth checking out. Write to them: VHF Records Sunspot Records PO Box 7365 PO Box 7453 Fairfax Sta, VA 22039 Arlington, VA 22207 I should probably also mention the new 7" by Morgantown, WV's Lack-A-Daisy, "The Angry Fish" on the world's most spectacularly named label: Bing's Haus Of Soft Creative Non-Violent Playthings. Fresh-sounding boy/girl garage-core. Write 'em care of Brick Row, PO Box 4110, Star City, WV 26505. In the non-indie department, the new Paul Weller album is great if you like blue-eyed 70s soul (I do), but don't expect anything remotely Jam-like from this LP. Also, Th Faith Healers' Lido LP is now out Stateside (on Elektra) with two kickin' bonus tracks. Buy. (Or get one free like I did. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Joshua Houk, i-l moderator <houk@athena.cs.uga.edu> Just one lil' review and I'm outta here... Beme Seed - 'Purify' (No. 6) This new platter from Kathleen Lynch and Co. is a bit of a mixed blessing. The overall sound is good (fucked-up dirges a la Live Skull or Of Cabbages And Kings), but there's a definite lack of substance here. Also - the whole record is thematically linked to spirtuality/purification. That's all and well, but in this case, it seems as though this is more of a cop out than some meticulously planned tour de force. But, the record puts me in an alright mood, so I'd say it's cool. ($12 and 20mi.) Next week (I swear!): Live Royal Trux and Snatch. Recorded Archers of Loaf, Small/Pipe, and Love Child. Really. Joshua H. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Sean Murphy, New Jersey BC <skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Yup, there is life in New Jersey, despite all the shit you've heard about toxic waste and sludge and all that (no, I don't glow in the dark, not yet :) ). By the time you read this, Beat Happening will have played at Maxwell's in Hoboken - Friday the 16th. I'm pretty psyched, as I haven't seen them before, and the new album rocks. A bit different from the old stuff, but still brilliant, with some nice pdxn from Steve Fisk (who? :) ) and Stuart Moxham, the former Young Marble Giant. BTW, please write to John Henderson of Feel Good All Over Records and bug him about when the Stuart Moxham LP is going to come out. That, and the new Cannanes LP and tons of other stuff. He's getting as bad as Cosloy about promising records that never happen. Anyway, future events in the Garden State include more killer shows at Maxwells: Oct. 23: Yo La Tengo and the Tall Dwarfs (!) Oct. 24: Versus, Grenadine, and STEREOLAB! (already got my tix...) and The Bats are coming soon too. Looks like a few more nights spent in the cultural center of Hoboken. Also, we're still on line to have Tsunami here in Princeton on November 19th, a rare show open to the public in these parts. (Most of the shows on campus are closed to P.U. students only...) but one of these closed, private shows will be Spectrum, on Nov. 7th. Getting high with Sonic Boom is a life-long dream for some friends of mine here... And a record review (or two)... Mecca Normal: Dovetail (K) Dovetail is the 4th Mecca Normal LP (although most people have never even seen a copy of the first one - a small pressing released in Canada only), and it features a more varied, changing Mecca Normal. Jean Smith will still shred you to pieces with her incomparable voice, but now she can break your heart, too. "Throw Silver" is one of the prettiest, saddest songs I've heard this year - it's in the same vein as "This Is Different" but better. David Lester has his surf guitar licks worked in with the noise guitar stuff and it all twirls together with Jean's vocals to keep you riveted to the speakers until the whole thing's done. 11 songs, about 30 minutes long, find the vinyl instead of CD if you can. (I'm a purist, sorry :) ) It is something everyone should own. The Mommyheads: Walking Into Beauty (Simple Machines) I'm not sure about the title, but it's a newer effort from this band (it was recorded over the course of 3 years) which has now moved from NYC to Chico, CA (home of the wonderful Vomit Launch!). I can't explain this too well, but the closest comparison I can make musically to the sound of this CD is Steely Dan. It's polished, mildy jazzy/muzaky (but not as much as Acorn, their 1st LP), with intelligent, funny lyics. I want to like it a lot, but it's not working right now. "At The Mall" (from the S.M. 7" Pulley) and their entry in the Tool Kit series are much more interesting and fun to listen to for me. You might like it, you might not. I'll probably buy it, but I'm not in a big rush. And on a side-note to The Mommyheads, it's a CD-only release. Yes, CD-only on Simple Machines. I suppose it was coming, but I can't quite understand why Jenny and Kristin did it this way (apparently, they're only making 2000), when they're two of the people who helped to restore my faith in vinyl. (And what does this mean in conjunction with the Tool Kits, a series of cassette only releases done to prove that CD's aren't the only way in the future? I'd much rather see a Geek CD or even a Jenny-side-project [like Slack and My New Boyfriend] CD before a Mommyheads CD.) [ Also, I don't think I've seen the new Vomit Launch and Eggs albums (on Teenbeat) on LP either... even though the full title of the Eggs album is "Eggs Bruiser LP". Incidentally, I went into the record store where I work the other day, and Tom, my co-worker with little (if any) indie sense, asked me "So whaddaya think of the Mommyheads? He was playing the disc in the store. Get off, Tom! - mark ] Enough editorializing...but perhaps a thread for future lists (I know, we're trying to avoid stupid threads...:) ): What are the x-number (5, 10 whatever) bands you wish you had seen and had a legitimate chance of seeing before they broke up? I put in the restriction about having a chance to see 'em because if I left that out, then I could put in The Clash and the Pistols and all sorts of old bands that broke up long before I knew they existed. Here's my current list, as an example... Mission Of Burma (I'm pushing the feasibility here, I know...) Bricks Black Tambourine Geek and I think you get the idea. Maybe this is stupid, if so, flame me to high heaven. One more note: unnamed sources have told me that there will be a 19 song CD from BRICKS released right around Christmas. A perfect stocking stuffer, huh? If you can't hang with the la-la... [ For those of you who don't get the Simple Machines catalogue, the ending to Sean's last sentence is "...don't pogo in the kitchen." Now that you know that, request a catalogue from Simple Machines, PO Box 10290, Arlington, VA 22210-1290 so you don't miss any future jokes. :) -mark ] [ My bands-i-wish-i'd-seen list: Courtney Love, Black Tambourine, Beefeater (might not be within the time frame), and Three (yes, Three, quit laughing. :) A band I'm gonna see before they break up: Nation Of Ulysses, this Saturday in D.C. -mark ] ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chris Sievanen, Seattle BC (doomgirl@u.washington.edu) October 14, 1992 The Young Fresh Fellows are having a record release party on October 24th, so fans of the fellows can be on the look out for a new album. I haven't heard what it's titled yet, but tis sure to be fun and popllama festive. It'll be on Frontier, since that's their label. Seven Year Bitch also have a new album coming up called Sic em' and it's due to be released on Haloween weeeeeeeeee. Flop have been in the studio recording a few songs, and their new stuff is WAY better than the stuff on Fall of the Mopsqueezer, which I liked, though some were disappointed. There isn't any date set for a new record, but they're working on it. Soundgarden played a show about a week ago that was unannounced - is this the new trend? Mudhoney and Nirvana and Soundgarden shows that you only know about if you're in the know? I didn't know about any of them unti lafter the fact, so I guess I'm a nerd, oh well. C/Z records are booked solid with bowling matches from now til the end of december. Word has it that Barbara Dollarhide used to be in a bowling league, so she's really good at it! They've compteted agaisnt Hype magazine, the Rocket, and various other newspapers. The newspaper I work for will be bowling with them in December so I'll let you know then what happens. [ If anyone needs another team member, I will happily bowl against C/Z anytime. They owe me a 7". -mark ] Hm, that's about it. Babes in Toyland play here on Friday, that I am looking forward to! See ya! ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Liz Clayton, Chicago BC <lclayton@UHURU.UCHICAGO.EDU> Hmm...just got back from the Luna show at Cabaret Metro...odd but fun. Sound sucked for the first half, but I moved over and it improved slightly. The band didn't start convincing me fully until the first Galaxie 500 cover - one I don't know by name, but it's off of _On Fire_. Then they went into a wonderful "Slash Your Tires" and I was won over. Luna songs played: "Slide", "I Can't Wait", "Crazy People", "Hey Sister", "We're Both Confused", "Anesthesia", "Slash Your Tires", "Goodbye" and maybe one more. Covers? The afforementioned _On Fire_ cut, "Tugboat", "Indian Summer" by Beat Happening, and a Dream Syndicate and Rolling Stones song to boot. Jeez. "Nice to be back. Last time I was here, someone threw a beer bottle at me." - Dean Wareham Next show on my calendar is Sugar/Boo Radleys, then I'm off to see how many times I can catch Curve while they're in Illinois. After that, I get to rest.. Assuming this cold doesn't go full-blast, that is. :-) [ Aside: Does anyone know whether the song called "Anesthesia" on the Dean Wareham 7" (on No. 6) is the same song as the Luna track? I saw that 7" at a recent record convention... didn't buy it but probably should have! -mark ] ------------------------------------------------------------------ More from: Liz Clayton, Chicago BC <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu> Okay! I'm in a super mood, which I really shouldn't be, since I'm really really deeply in debt now, but so it goes. I just picked up another bunch o'7"ers a couple of hours ago (Vomit Launch, Honeybunch, Black Tambourine, and Bag O'Shells). Also got the _Kill Rock Stars_ LP (I'm so untimely) just for the wonderful Bikini Kill song. Things that I'm overplaying this week: Scrawl: Smallmouth (yeah, aren't I just the currentest of current?) Huggy Bear: "Rubbing Thee Impossible To Burst" 7" (Wijja). This is FANTASTIC!!! They're from England, and they're a fucking Riot Grrrrrl band! These guys are really really great, in the raw sense of something like Sebadoh, but with a lot of balls-out (tits-out?) fun rock. Damn. Get this the instant you see it. Eugenius: Oomalama, especially "Breakfast" The Wedding Present: "Sticky". David Gedge tells someone to take a hike. Fastbacks: "Impatience". Yeah, just that one song. I'm a sucker. Show stuff: Seeing Sugar/Boo Radleys tonight, looks promising, too bad the venue bites really hard. Seam play here (they now live here, too, which is a pleasing bit of news for me, anyway) on Wednesday and I'm really looking forward to that one. Barbara Manning is this Saturday, but I think I'm going to skip it. I'll put in an appearance at the U of C showing of "the US Rollercoaster Tour", but will probably only see two of the four bands (Curve and Medicine as opposed to Spiritualized and The Jesus and Mary Chain) anyway. [ Word from 4AD-L is that Medicine have left said tour. Tell us what happens, Liz. - mark ] That's really about all I have to say (although some could argue I never have anything to say anyway...) Peace out, bro. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Lindsay Watt <lindsay@mathematics.edinburgh.ac.uk> Mudhoney, 9th October, Glasgow Barrowlands. Arrived half way through The Joyriders' set. Yet another Scottish pseudo-grunge band, except this bunch rip off Husker Du, rather than Dinosaur Jr or Big Star. They looked a bit lost on the big stage, and weren't too exciting. Leatherface were next. They're a good natured melodic punk band from the NE of England - nothing terribly innovative in the music, but they do write catchy tunes. Here they made a good grungy noise, and watching singer Frankie bounce around the stage is always enjoyable. Mudhoney were a little disappointing. They had a pretty poor sound (I didn't think the guitars were loud enough) and only played for an hour (that included the encore). They gave a fair representation of their work over the years, and didn't concentrate on the new material too much, but it wasn't the quintessential grunge experience I had hoped for. So, the next day I was off to see..... .....The Action Swingers, Edinburgh Lord Darnley. They only played for 40 minutes or so, and every song sounded exactly the same, but I really enjoyed this. Even Ned seemed not to be in too bad a mood, and he ended up in the crowd, lying on the floor with his guitar. They may be dumb, their lyrics might be crap, but they (ahem) rock. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Richard Kasperowski, Boston BC <richk@icad.COM> Boston: Last weekend, the Hynes Auditorium hosted the "College Fest". Under normal circumstances I wouldn't have gone, but WZBC gave me two tickets. Like usual, they forgot to submit their list of ticket winners, but the door guy let my girlfriend and me in on Saturday anyway. At the College Fest, Saturday's band was Cliffs of Dooneen. I don't care for them too much, but the girlfriend does, so we stayed and watched most of their set. Their sound was what you would expect from clean-cut young men with freshly-washed long hair - just right for the college crowd. It was obvious that their songs are heavily influenced by U2's last few albums. The long-blond-haired pretty-boy singer's practised "spontaneity" was pretty annoying. It was supposed to be cool when he threw down his mic stand, but he looked as if he was afraid to break it. If he wasn't so serious, I would have thought he was joking when he encouraged the audience to slam dance. Of course they didn't; they didn't want to mess up their hair. So why am I telling you about them? Aside from the fact that it was the only band I saw last week, I want to warn you in advance: Don't spend money to watch this band! Somebody from SubPop (I missed his name) was on the air at WMBR on Tuesday morning. According to him, Nation of Ulysses broke up sometime after last week's Vermonstrous show. Vermonstrous is the name of a show in Vermont that included something like 10 bands, many of them from SubPop. [ The NOU rumors have been flying all summer. They're currently opening some shows for Beat Happening, including one this Saturday in DC (as previously mentioned.) I guess we'll see what happens... -Mark ] Coming next week: A review of Painteens at the Middle East Restaurant in Cambridge. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jodi Shapiro, New York BC <JSHAPIRO@MURRAY.FORDHAM.EDU> From the cluttered New York City Desk... This week was a pretty good week for shows-too many at one time and way X-pensive too. First... Gravel/Codeine/Velocity Girl/Beat Happening Hot off the heels of Vermonstress, four rockin bands played Wetlands (the eco-conscious venue). Celebs in attendance (if you care about these things) were Christina Kelly (Sassy), Tae of Kicking Giant, Ian and Steve from Nation Of Ulysses, Mike McGonigal (Chemical Imbalance) and Gerard Cosloy. Gravel came on, played a way short set of nice crunchy garage tunes much in the vein of the Mono Men. But slower. I liked 'em a lot, nice bass parts and catchy songs. They're playing again tomorrow, so I'll see 'em again and all that. They've a single on Estrus. Codeine are a lot better than their records will lead you to believe. They're heavy and intense, but not in a Melvins sort of way. They're the band Seam promises to be on their "Days Of Thunder" single, or the one Galaxie 500 didn't have the balls to become. Chris and Steve work really well together and the songs are so sad sounding! But Steve had to stifle a few giggles. Hilights were "D", "Pickup Song", "Realize" and "Broken Hearted Wine". New LP out soon, single out now on Sub Pop. Velocity Girl were cool, noisy pop that really made everyone dance. They sound so great now that there's no stopping them. New stuff is bass heavy and real pretty. Hilights: "Why Should I Be Nice To You" and "My Forgotten Favorite". Beat Happening were great too, Heather sounded good, Calvin danced his kiddie sexual grind dance and Bret just played his guitar (and drums sometimes) to himself. People didn't know what to make of them, considering they were either a) high school students or b) hip industry insiders. They played the quiet songs off of _You Turn Me On_, plus "I Love You", "Nancy Sin", "Redhead Walking" and a bunch of stuff off Jamboree. See 'em if you can, they're really cool. Mudhoney's new LP is great, go buy it or steal it. No sellouts here. Soul Asylum's new one is cool too. Edsel/Velocity Girl (Rodrigue's last night) Rodrigues is the coffee hous on the Fordham campus. More people than I expected! Edsel is noisy pop, with a leaning towards the chiming sound. They have a CD on Merkin, and if it's anything like their live show it kicks. [ Has anyone actually SEEN this Edsel CD? I mean, it seems like our radio station gets EVERYTHING from Merkin, even the ho-hum Pearl Fishers, and I've yet to see any Edsel-ness from them. - Mark ] V Girl played a totally different set here, all new stuff. I asked Jim if they could play "Tales Of Brave Aphrodite" but he said they couldn't. The bassist played the bass part for me though. Their new stuff is awesome, and I can't wait to hear the LP they're about to record. I think these guys are going to be the Next Big Thing. Tuesday night I wandered into a bar called Max's Fish and there were a lot of familiar faces. I said to my companions "Hey, there's Velocity Girl! And Gerard Cosloy! What're they doing here?" and then these guys got up and started playing. They're Bailter Space. Yes, Bailter Space. Oh god I nearly bust a gut! And lo, they were incredible! Mike Medlin's gonna kill me fer shure...they're playing CBGB on Saturday the 17th if anyone's interested. Ummm, not much else to say-CMJ coming soon, lotsa bands including Mekons/ American Music Club (the band that makes ya cry), Mudhoney/Flaming Lips/ Eugenius, Railroad Jerk/Pontiac Bros. and the AmRep showcase with the Melvins, Cows, Tar, Surgery, Cosmic Psychos and Hammerhead. Yow! I am having fun! [ I'm skipping CMJ this year, so if anyone could tell me how was the Stereolab/Moonshake/ThFaith Healers show, I'd be indebted... - Mark ] ------------------------------------------------------------------ THE FABULOUS, FABULOUS INDIE-LIST STAFF CO-MODERATORS (masters of both thyme and spice) Mark Cornick, stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (Harrisonburg, VA) Joshua Houk, houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Athens, GA) BUREAU CHIEFS (self-titled) Mark Bunster, mbunster@hibbs.vcu.edu (Richmond, VA) Liz Clayton, lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Chicago, IL) Chris Sievanen, doomgirl@u.washington.edu (Seattle, WA) Wendell Gee, wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Boulder, CO/"The Colorado Front Range") Richard Kasperowski, richk@icad.COM (Boston, MA) Keren Kurti, kk2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pittsburgh, PA) Brian May, Brian.May@mel.dit.csiro.au (Melbourne, AUSTRALIA) Sean Murphy, skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu (Princeton, NJ) Kimmo Saaskilahti, trkisa@uta.fi (Tampere, FINLAND) Jodi Shapiro, jshapiro@murray.fordham.edu (Fordham, NY) Volker Stewart, radavfs@ube.ub.umd.edu (Baltimore, MD) Marc Wandschneider, storm@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Montreal, PQ) ------------------------------------------------------------------ We are still looking for people who'd like to write somewhat regular columns for this here thingy (as opposed to that there thingy.) Write Mark for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Respect is due to Ted at Record Convergence, Fairfax, VA. Go by his store if you're ever around DC. Tell him Mark from WXJM sent you. Respect paid! ------------------------------------------------------------------ "There are lots of bands that are into it more for the spirit of the music than the rock star shtick." - Sohrab Habibion, Edsel