Indie-List_V2_N17 <------------------------+ the INDIE-LIST DIGEST / <---------------=======================---------------> / Volume 2, Number 17 +------------------------> <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Mark Subject: Outhouses Of The Holy Hi de ho de hum... I'm pretty busy working on Fshee! and the second ish of _Burping Lula_ right now, so not much this week... - AVAIL, "Attempt To Regress" 45 (Catheter-Assembly, POB 4785, Richmond VA 23220): A Richmond band who've played a melodic HC sort of sound (on past records) that was not too bad, but seemed to be lacking a certain "oomph." There's "oomph" to spare on this 45, pairing up the thick & heavy guitar sound with a rap-inflected (!) vocal and rhythm. There's a message to it, of course, but they stop short of pounding a dogma into your brain. The b-side "Mr. Morgan" is the more melodic of the two, but the a-side "Connection" is the one I find mumbling to myself in the car. Recommended for people who (like me) are/were getting pretty jaded on endless HC bands that all sound the same. Fresh and invigorating. ** - BLASTOFF COUNTRY STYLE, "Pretty Sneaky Sis" (Teenbeat, PO Box 50373, Techworld Station, Washington DC 20091): I find it really hard to believe that they've made it this far, but here is the second 45 from BOCS (with a third soon to follow, yippie-ky-yay!) Much better realized than their first one (production once again by noted graphic artist/Pitchblender Treiops Treyfid), but holds on to the endearing geekiness. (Hey, they even learned how to tune a guitar, wacky wild stuff kids!) And, "Far-Out-Law" even adds some neato organ shtuff. Part Gidget, part budget rock, part Degrassi Junior High. And yes, they're just as zany in person (I went to college with them.) What more can I really say? It's silly, it's chipmunky, and it'll rock your bobby sox off. Yeah. ** - CANVAS #4 zine (Jamie Kennard, Skidmore College Box 641, Saratoga Springs NY 12866, <jkennard@skidmore.edu>, half-letter size, $1.00/trade): Punk/HC oriented zine featuring interviews with "controversial" poet Paul Weinman and Amy Pickering o/b/o/ Dischord Records, as well as some musings on the commercialization of punk and skateboarding, plus yr usual record/zine reviews, all well done. Comes from the Rochester NY area, where my parents went to college and almost had me (neat, huh?) and the reviews reflect the locale to some extent (although not exclusively.) Looks good, too. Enjoyed reading it. I don't listen to much hardcore any more, but if I did, I'd be reading this fairly regularly. *1/2 - HELIUM, "Hole In The Ground" (Pop Narcotic, 1085 Commonwealth Ave #339, Boston MA 02215, <popnarc@world.std.com>): Not too long ago I reviewed the 45 from Slant 6, featuring Christina Bilotte from Autoclave. A fellow 'Clave alumna, Mary Timony, now fronts Helium. A friend of mine once described Timony's voice as "a hardcore version of Chrissie Hynde." Not sure if I agree with her or not, but the b-side "Lucy" does have a slight Pretenders ring to it here and there. Nevertheless, the a-side is near hardcore intensity (I'd say it's probably the hardest record on this label thus far) and teems with grrrl anger. Big sound for a trio, and a great record (right, Liz?) **1/2 - SMALL FACTORY, "So What About Love" (Pop Narcotic): My dislike for Small Factory is well-known among people who know me or have read some of my past writings. But their Working Holiday contribution "If You Hurt Me" was so fucking amazing that I decided to give them another chance. So here's their latest 45, and they're not as afraid of electrifying as they once seemed to be. The a-side "So What About Love" is a fairly typical SF lala-fest, but the b-side "We Will" rocks out big-time with a bass sound bigger than Alaska. They've finally made a record I like; now what am I going to rant about? ** - V/A, "HOW TO WORSHIP MOSQUITOES" (Eerie Materials, PO Box 14592, Richmond VA 23220): Second in Eerie's line of "How To" tape compilations (the next one, "How To Cauterize A Flesh Wound With A Waffle Iron", will be out when Dick Clark dies or when hell freezes over, whichever comes first.) Eerie, of course, are the world-renowned (ahum) merchants of musical dementia. This compilation is perhaps not as strong overall as the first ("How To Kill Frank Sinatra") but has some great moments from bands like Geezer Lake, Slang Laos, Evolution Control Committee and Rob Christiansen. The overall atmosphere is one of low fidelity, chaos, noise, and sonic sputum. But how can you pass up a tape that includes a song entitled "My Half Brother, Vomit, Keeps Saying Clotwurst!, Clotwurst!, Clotwurst!, Clotwurst!, Clotwurst!, !" Guaranteed to make your parents hurl faster than you can say "Beavis, this rocks, huh huh, huh huh." * Ran into an old friend of mine this week, whom I hadn't seen since he used to go out with my best (female) friend back in North Carlolina. (Hmm...) We had some beers and caught up a bit. Also, my current temp assignment got extended, etc. It's been a good week, I must say. Thanks to people who've written recently, and let's have those articles for Fshee!... c'mon, don't be shy... :-) BTW, a brief note about Fshee!: I'm not planning on running reviews in it. I mean, we run reviews every week; I don't really see the point in running more. Instead, I'm looking for more generally-interesting stuff. What that means is (as usual) up to you. See ya... <-----------------------------------------------------> From: STU_AJWAN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU (Amy Wan) Subject: a show of interest Hey those out there in indie list land. This is my first contribution to the list, but please don't expect much(I have an extreme fear of getting flamed, so I hate to write). Basically, I want to let all out there about a great show which is going to be at James Madison University(yes, Mark's old school) on September 24th. I think it starts around 7 or 7:30 and will cost $5 in advance, $6 at the door. Oh, yeah--the bands playing are Joe the Fireman(from Blacksburg, VA), The Earthworms(rom Athens, a sort of pop band), Bicycleface, the Moving Targets(cool, cool punk rock, infamous for their live Zeppelin covers), and Unrest. I guess that's it, unless you have any questions. Feel free to e-mail me or call the station(the show is sponsored by WXJM) at 703-568-6878. (if you are far away you can still buy tickets in advance) Please come if you are within a reasonable distance. It should be pretty neato. ps... by the way, I have some news about Mark's old band the Ice Cream Socialists. Fortunately for all you fans out there, the band is still alive and well. They are/have been playing some out of town gigs, plus pretty much exhausting the one half way decent club and all on campus venues. I guess the biggest thing going on with them is that are being considered for a Globe records compilation disc(label part owned by Archie of Velocity Girl) Stay tuned for more.... [ Yessirree, leaving that band was the best thing I ever did for them, eh? :-) Glad to hear they're doing well. What's Gimpy the Turtle up to these days? - Mark ] <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Laurence Roberts RD <lroberts@bellahs.com> Subject: Indie-list: Oswald Five-0, Huggy Bear, and Plunderphonics Saw Oswald Five-O on Saturday, who were performing as part of Queer Media Chaos, a queer zine fair. The fair went o.k -- I no longer have high expectations of selling lots of Holy Titclamps at such events, and mostly go for the opportunity to meet other zine editors. >From looking at Oswald Five-O, you wouldn't expect them to make the kind of music they do. They look more like they should be performing swing music or something. Robert and Nick wear dapper suits and ties, and Diane wouldn't look out of place in the 1950's either. There's sort of an early Cindy Sherman (black and white movie still period) sensibility about the cover of their CD, "For Losers Only," which pictures Diane looking depressed at a kitchen table. Despite all this, they rock out, the tempos are sometimes fast, at times sounding like melodic Eastbay hardcore. Diane and one of the male members swap vocals. They make reference in the liner notes to the Descendents and the Wipers. What really made me prick up my ears, though, was their cover of "My Head Hurts," a lost classic originally sung by Lois Maffeo with the Go Team on the "Archer Come Sparrow" cassette. Oswald Five-O's cover rocks out more than the original, but is worthy. (History Lesson: The core of the Go Team was Calvin Johnson [sigh --Lena] and Tobi Vail, and they collaborated on a couple of cassettes and an abortive monthly series of singles (never made it past the summer) with a range of northwest underground luminaries including Curt Kobain.) Oswald Five-0's record is available from Grinning Idiot Records, Box 10634, Eugene, OR 97440. Archer Come Sparrow is still available from K. Sunday I saw Huggy Bear, the Frumpies and Blood Sausage, but I've already reported on that to the Chugchanga-list. Huggy Bear will be heading east, and will be rejoined by Blood Sausage for the east-coast leg of the trip. (Don't worry about getting hit by confused British drivers -- they're being driven by a member of Pavement. Small comfort.) Something else to look out for is a new Japanese import Plunderphonic CD. John Oswald samples, cuts up and reconstructs pop music. What does a title like "Ozzy Osmond" suggest to you? I suppose this is probably being discussed on the New Music list, but I don't subscribe. Could someone who is let me know what folks are saying? Larry-bob lroberts@bellahs.com <-----------------------------------------------------> From: 0 <sokay@swift.mitre.org> Subject: Brush with Greatness Since everybody here has been talking about Unrest so much recently, I thought I'd drop in my own ObUnrest. I had a brush with them at Dulles Airport about 3 weeks ago as they were getting ready to leave for LA and I was heading for San Francisco. Once again, this proves that I should let other people do my interviews for me and not say anything myself. Me:"Unrest ehh? <looking at gold painted Unrest logo on a guitar case as I wait in the United check-in line>...are you guys with the band?" U: "Oh I am the band...errr...we are the band...her and him and me" Me:" Cool!!...so where are you guys off to?" U: "We're going to LA and then work our way up the coast" Me:"Are you going to play the Bay area?.. I'm gonna be out there for about 2 weeks,s it'd be cool to know if you're playing there.." U: "Naahhh....not until October..but we'll be back here in Sept. Like the 2nd or something.." Me:"Okay..." U: "So are you with anybody?" Me:"I just do this small netzine thing called 'Armadillo Culture..you've probably never heard of it.." U: "No.....sorry.." U: "we're from around here though, did you know that?" Me:"Yeah...." U: "Oh, you just look kind of lost or something..." Me:"Oh....well, I kind of always look like that..." <Counter Droid>"Can I help you down here sir?" Me:"Yeah!...well...later..." I didn't get to the show when I got back. It was the day I got home and I was pretty lagged, so I got crashed instead.. ----Steve ------- Stephen Okay sokay@mitre.org "You won't be happy with me,but give me one more chance, You won't be happy anyways..."----Magnetic Fields <-----------------------------------------------------> From: "Baddiley, John" <badjoh.topemail@mhsgate.cit.ac.nz> Subject: In defense of Shihad Why is it that every band that releases something even slightly industrial-ish with samples these days that they get compared to Ministry? I mean, all the newspaper reviewers would be out of luck if Ministry hadn't released Psalm 69 (nothing these people are releasing sounds even vaugely like earlier Ministry. Anyway, off with the rambling rant. A year ago, I could have said without a shadow of a doubt that I didn't like anything that vaguely resembled a metal-type sound. Then I bought Course of Empires' album, and then The God Machines', and now I find myself quite liking the "Wall of sound" effect. So when I received my free ticket in the mail to the Radio Active (our local ex-student band (they lost student association funding a couple of years ago)) [Private] Function, I was quite pleased. Playing that night was a heap of Nz bands that I had heard of, and wanted to see, had not heard of, and wanted to see, and had heard of and didn't really want to see, but would if I wasn't paying for it I suppose. Playing were (in no particular order), Cinematic, Steak, Pumpkin Head, Emma Paki, Halleluja Picassos, Shihad, MC OJ and Rhythm Slave and The Headless Chickens. For my mind, it was definitely worth the $25 I had paid at the beginning of the year to get the subcard (considering I got a Lemonheads ticket with that as well). Anyway, back to the topic. Cinematic sounded good (I walked in just to hear them say "And this is our last song for the evening"), Steak were, well, they were very good in places. I particularly liked the head dress they wore (bassist wore a horses skull with glowing red eyes, Guitarist wore a papier mache aliens head (with moving jaw and red glowing eyes) ...they sounded quite a bit like Fear Factory crossed with something like (oops...ministry? :) ). Went over to a friends party across the road when Emma Paki was playing, so I don't really know what she was like. Halleluja Picassos, on the other hand, were brilliant. They played just the right type of music (the type that you could jump up and down to). The Chooks had the best accoustics for the evening. Although I still don't like Fiona McDonald. Bring back rupert! (It seemed at times as if she was trying to justify her place in the band by saying things after each song. She also seemed to be the kind of person to say "We are now a pop band, so I will wear pop/trendy clothes". They were quite good though, and I liked a lot of their new songs. The highlight of the evening for me was definitely Shihad, though. Their new album (churn), has been getting very good reviews over here, and so I was quite looking forward to seeing them. As said before, there was lots of that nasty smoke stuff, but I was just back far enough to miss inhaling it all. Shihad have definitely been doing some practice though, and ripped through a 45 minute set with a fair amount of flair (I thought that the "fuckin' cheers" to the audience between each song had a certain amount of style :) ) Not really knowing the songs doesn't help for a review though (I did know "churn" by the chorus :) ). Needless to say, If Shihad come your way (and there is a possibility of a worldwide release of their "Churn" album, go get it (or at least have a listen) Jono ___________________________________________________________________ "Have you ever seen a bird fly? Have you ever seen the sun shine? Have you ever held anything beautiful, and known that it would eventually die?" The God Machine Jono Baddiley (Internet : badjoh.topemail@mhsgate.cit.ac.nz) The Open Polytech of New Zealand Information Services Phone (64 4) 560 5679 <or> (64 4) 566 6189 (Ext. 5679) <-----------------------------------------------------> From: David Bennison <davidb@dbadmin2.amgen.com> Subject: Blues Explosion + Stereolab Live 13th Sept- Stereolab/Codiac/Fur - Norwich Arts Centre ----------------------------------------------------- I figured I might as well go to this, there was nothing on TV (rest day for the World Chess Championships, no 'Mr Don and Mr George'), there was nobody at home and Stereolab had had a pretty decent album review recently although they had so far passed me by. The only track I'd ever heard was Super Electric?, something which I didn't like but I'd give them another go anyway. Pretty cool venue with a nice range of steam beers, teas and soups and giant photos of nipples on the walls. Those crazy crazy Norwich Art students. They had a selection of bowls on display selling at over 100 pounds each! Looked quite nice but are they practical I asked myself. Fur were already playing and I felt an overpowering depression as I watched them. 4 non blonds with Ride/ Foppish haircuts (I have the urge to punch) singing miserable slow `shoegazer' epics with the panache and stage presence of the old bassist from Lush. In the My Bloody Valentine stakes, they were 10th round drafts. Ho hum, let's be fair. One guy played a cello and at times could be compared to the Bambi Slam (anyone remember?). Codiac were next and they wore dirty vests. Real men I thought. Don't care for personal hygeine and older than me so a good start all round. They looked a bit like World Domination Enterprises (a band I loved but nobody else did) but yet again flattered to deceive. They were a 'power-trio' and tried to sound like Monster Magnet but only managed to re-create Monster Magnets dullest moments, the problem being that they were limited guitar-ally, unable to wig out at the desired moment and having to resort to the slow wah-wah instead. OK I guess but I'm getting sick of accepting mediocrity, rawness and promise at the expense of genuine talent and someone who can deliver the goods. Take any 5 kids, one French preferably and 1 Moe Tucker lookalike. Show the guitarist a riff, the keyboardist a chord, the bassist a string and a drummer what drum to hit and you have Stereolab. Now repeat for 8 minutes, add some admittedly nice girly vocal harmonies over the top. Now stop. Now choose the same riff, a difference chord (or the same one but higher), show the bassist another string, don't bother notifying the drummer that you're now on a new song and repeat as before. Actually this is pretty unfair but I like slating bands. Stereolab don't play a brand of music I'm particularly excited about although they went down pretty well with the crowd. I feel the most interesting thing about them is the lead vocalists French accent and the harmonies she makes with the Moe Tucker clone. A Farafisa organ comes in and adds a bit to the groove but overall I saw nothing to convince me that I'd missed out on seeing their career develop to the suprising heights of Sub Pop stars. The Dwarves they ain't. The repetative rhythm angle is something that I think Th'Faith Healers do a lot better due mainly to them having a top notch rhythm section and an excellent drummer while Stereolab rely more on vocals and keyboards. Anyway, that's that. On the drive home I listened to a John Spensers Blues Explosion bootleg which reminded me why I bother going to these gigs. 14th Sept - The John Spenser Blues Explosion/Nightblooms - Boat Race,Cambridge ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got there early as it's down the road from where I work and said Hello to John Spenser who was sitting outside, as you do. Wow. Good start I thought. Not only was he in one of the greatest bands, it was HIS band too and he had Bob Bert AND Neil Haggerty in it. I saw Unrest here a month ago and there were around 50 people and it was a great night. This venue is fast becoming my favourite for sound and location, although it's pretty sparce, dark and scummy and there's not much room, even for a small crowd. So, The Nightblooms were first up, a 4 piece with a powerful and loud drummer, a young dreadlocked girl bassist, a Ramones/Slash-from-G&Roses-lookalike lead guitarist and a Scandanavian Abba/Heidi-type girl vocalist. They were pretty inanimate on stage but were making a real interesting Velvet Underground guitar groove, more 'Waiting for My Man' and 'Rock & Roll' than 'Sister Ray'. This comparison may be partly due to the Nico vocals of the Dutch? singer although they were more upbeat. The bassist chimed in with some nice harmonies and all in all I was impressed. They varied from sparce stop/start songs one minute to full-on guitar and drum workouts the next and I say 'Go See Them' although they didn't look like they could afford a bus home, let alone a US Tour. Next was my potential escape from a mundane week, John Spenser and his Blues Revue hit the stage and looked total star material from the first note. John was all in black with 'Hustler' across the front, the other lead guitarist looked like John did before he got his hair cut while the drummer wore a Halo of Flies T-shirt, looked like he knew what he was doing and was of Bob Bert proportions (almost). Not having the Blues Explosion LP, I couldn't name anything - most of the songs running into the next with the occassional cry of 'Blues Explosion' and 'Thankyou Ladies and Gentlemen', but every second of the 1 hour set was nothing less than stunning. The obvious comparison is Pussy Galore, particularly the R&B tinge of the Exile on Main Street recordings but it seemed better live in front of me. I kept looking back at my pal Jezz who was taping the show. For the first time ever, he was smiling and shuffling about - quite an achievement. As well as some blistering blasts of harmonia and guitar noise, John also plays a mean 'Electric Pole' which sits on top of an amp and makes a radio tuning/wave oscillating hum when he waves his hand over it. The drummer was brutal, the other guitarist was stellar and John Spenser was a God! They fucking rocked the way I expect my rock to be fucking rocked. I won't go on an on except to say that this show beats Faust, Shudder to Think and Blurt to the glittering prize of best gig of the last 2 years for me. You've sinned if you don't see them live given the chance. Praise the Lord & Amen. David... <-----------------------------------------------------> From: In lust we trust <doomgirl@u.washington.edu> RE: Christine's Reviews Hi - it's me, Chris Sievanen in Seattle - and here are some reviews! [Thanks, Chris! Now these were worth the wait. That's what I call a well-written review! -- Lena] Belt Buckle EP - 7" on Sonic Bubblegun (Lou Barlow, Bob Fay, and a guy named Eric) All Lou and Sebadoh fans buy this single! It's definitely Lou from the word go doing his best to rip your heart out of your chest with his wobegone vocals - but wait, then you notice he's singing about the Beastie Boys and farts! Only Lou Barlow could sing about flatulance and make it sound serious and wistful. It's a bit more uptempo than Lou songs are, and that's due in part to Bob and Eric who also provide charming baritone and echoing backing vocals to the songs....the last song even sounds almost, um, rap-like! Amazine! What's next, country and western Lou? 4 very cool songs. Palace Brothers - "drinking woman" 7" - + full length album Drag City The Palace Brothers are mostly ex-Slint guys and in the move to the new band they somehow became kinda country! But in a rather fucked up mentally sort of way, a kind of drunken dusty punk rock cowboy sort of way. The music is very mellow and kinda ambles along - it's very calming music, calm like the Cowboy Junkies but with more of an awareness, if that makes sense, not as blind as the Cowboy Junkies. Someone that I know questioned the the "sincerity" of the Palace Brothers - i.e. were they poking fun by doing country-ish music? I dunno, really, but they're good at it, it's a g reat sounding album if you're into really low key stuff. Star Pimp - Victoria b/w Richie & Meat Grinder 7" - Boner Records I don't know much about this band but I bought the single cause I'd read an interview in Flipside. I'm so glad I did! They've got female vocals and go from a kind of woozy winding kinda off key warbling on Victoria to full out punkish frenzy on Richie and Meat Grinder. The songs are very addicting, i.e. they will totally get stuck in your head. I'd compare them to something like Salem 66 crossed over with Babes in Toyland or something like that. I'm very impressed and can't wait for a full album. I guess there's a CD single with 3 extra songs, which sucks, cause now I already have the single and buying the CD is annoying. OH well. Butt Trumpet - Lost my Flannel in Seattle Don't buy it. It's annoying and bad. I thought it would be funny (cause I'm from seattle) but the music just sounds so bad that I can't even listen to it to get the joke. Ok, byebye chris <-----------------------------------------------------> From: VISSERK@BUREAU.RUG.NL Subject: review It's about nine in the morning. And i'm sitting behind my desk. At my office. Everything is going slow this morning. Even the cigarette burns hesitantly. Never mind though, coz last night i saw a show. Old faves, never expected to see _Bloood on the saddle_ at the Vera Club in Groningen, Netherlands. I mean, i was a highschool kid when they had their first records out, mind. When i gathered i'd be old enough to go to clubs, there were no _Blood on the saddle_ anymore, or so they say. Do you readers remember this band? It's a fine one. Okay, about the concert. I was anxious to know if it was still the same music. It is, in a way. Really fast punk rock, i remember they called it =cowpunk=, for there was and is a lot of country involved. Fine..... The drummer is kinda Revererend Horton Heat look-a-like. And he was tight, man. The bassplayer looked like he was supposed to be a member of the Smashing Pumpkins, but i think he should play worse if he decides to sollicitate:-). And then about mr. How-fast- can-you-play-guitar himself. I suppose there must be a lot of heavy metal guitarplayers being very very jealous:-) And what do they play, dear reviewer? Well.... Okay, it's like the cowpunk thing, actually, but sometimes it's like the Dead Kennedys or perhaps even Prong are roaming all over the stage. And did i tell you about W.A. Mozarts ghost, who transcended in every solopiece? I tell you now. I forgot to count the moviethemes, cosily wrapped up in the songs. Of course! Of course they played Rawhide, a Johnny Cash song and a lot of this stuff. It was at least to me good fun. Though the audience was small, i guess everyone had a good, or hilarious, or whatever, time. So, readers, tell me about how they're doing in the States. I'm curious. Bye then. Kees<VISSERK@bureau.rug.nl> <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Sean Keric Murphy <skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Subject: Indie-List: Ecstasy One quick review this week (gotta deal with classes and all sorts of other shit these days...) The Ecstasy of St. Theresa - Fluidtrance Centauri 10" (Free Records - no address given, but I know they're British) Wow. Spoooooooky. Ride and the Cocteaus and Lush all swirled together into three little songs...it's fairly mindblowing. (So mentioning Lush and the Cocteaus seems redundant to you? So what...) It's sparser than the usual shoegazer brit stuff - they let you get a good listen to each and every guitar pedal they own (here's a delay! here's our phaser! neat!), and the drops from quiet, barely audible stuff to crashing fuzz is like riding that big old log flume at Canobie Lake Park in southern New Hampshire at the end of a hot, sweaty summer day. Whoooooosh. I'm gonna have to dig up the bucks for import 10" vinyl...grrr. (New austerity mode, forced by a lack of financial resources at the moment...i don't like being unable to enter record stores). ** (and if you like, the word "swirled" can be a pun - it wasn't intended, but it's also somewhat appropriate :) Also been listening to too much Stereolab for my own good, and I scored a copy of Metallica's _Master Of Puppets_ for 1.99 a couple weeks back - this truly is one of the best metal albums ever recorded. Fuck Beavis and Butthead. Metallica once ruled (they lost it after the "success" of "One" and that horrible one-riff record they put out whenever...), and Master is an example of how to rule the metal plains. My friend Tim just picked up Slayer's "Reign In Blood" for the same price - I kinda wish I grabbed that one too. [ I dunno. I'm pretty partial to Ronnie James Dio myself. JUST... walk away. :-) - Mark ] Back to the same old, same old... Sean <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Steven Silverstein <cs141091@cs.brown.edu> Subject: hagio;afjkd This week's shows: Yo La Tengo and the Non Pareils at Last Call Saloon, 9/12 Quite a good show. Non Pareils are local and sound a lot like the Feelies circa Good Earth, but less polished and with only one guitar. They even covered a song I'm forgetting from that album. They didn't impress me that much live but were kind of OK. I've been told their 4-track work with Alex Kemp is really good, but I haven't heard it. Yo La were quite good, mixing old and new stuff. Some songs were amazingly pretty, esp the stuff with Georgia (?) on keyboards instead of guitar. Some other tunes were great noise workouts, though the guitar soloing occasionally goes on a tad too long, still excellent. Some of the avant noise sort of stuff was really cool. They swapped instruments a few times and things, and all was great overall. Superchunk, small factory, and Mole People at Lupos, 9/16 OK. We got there at 10:15 and the Mole People were long over. Now I know Lupo's just starts shows too damn early and has really long breaks between bands. I heard that they were quite good. It's Jack and Matt from Flower Gang back as the Mole People, which they were before FG. They're apparently a lot more straightforward punk than FG, and Matt sings sometimes. That's all I know, since I missed them. small factory were good, and have finally learned to play a bigger place. They didn't use the whole (huge) stage, since Superchunk's drums were set up, so that helped. A couple new songs drag a bit ("Friends" esp.), but others ("Junkie on a Good Day", "Keep on Smiling") sounded good and "What to Want" and "Suggestions" were better than ever. Superchunk really don't sound as original or messy as they did and Mac's efforts to sing better are actually irritating and a bit grating after a whole show, but they still are amazing songwriters and totally rocked. Very energetic, and they just have so much fun running around the stage. Their closing noise thing on "Throwing Things" was really solid, and some stuff like "On the Mouth" really rocked. So, a good show in all. Fudge are heading up to Boston to record with Eric from the Dambuilders, who are themselves in the studio recording some new stuff (look for a 7" of older stuff on Rockville soon). small factory are probably recording a new album of unspecified and often newly resurrected and rearranged old stuff. Vegetarian Meat have a couple of 7"s and a CD coming out on No. 6, including the stuff they recorded with Kramer in June. -Steve <-----------------------------------------------------> From: LePageL/MF <lepagel/mf@hermes.bc.edu> Subject: Indie List - Breeders etc Breeders and Yo La Tengo, Live at Axis Well, to start off with, Axis is a lousy club so I saw very little of the show (I did hear it pretty well). Also, there was a heavy bonehead presence in the crowd (sorry, mostly male, can't figure why), who enhanced my enjoyment of the show by talking in ringing tones during most of the softer songs by both bands and (in one case) yelling "shut up and play" anytime Kim Deal had the temerity to open her mouth. Yo La Tengo are one of my favorite live bands. For anyone who hasn't heard them, they have a wide ranging stylistic repertoire ranging from free-form improvisational guitar noise (Ira Kaplan), gentle dreamy ballads (Georgia Hubley), and even some conventional pop songs. While they never sound the same twice, this time out, the emphasis was more on noisy guitar with Ira and the bass player trading leads (so to speak). Georgia, whose drumming seems stronger than ever, came out from behind the set to do one ballad (from the new record), but the vocals were so low that the crowd was more audible than she was. With minimal stage patter, the set proceeded in hypnotic waves, and in fact, I saw several people around me, eyes closed, swaying gently to the roar. I was curious about the Breeders live for several reasons. For one, Kim Deal has implied in interviews that her sister Kelley, who is credited with playing lead guitar, in fact learned the instrument in the last three months especially for the purpose of enabling her to replace Tanya Donnelly. Then there is the matter of Kim herself. When I saw her with the Pixies a couple of years ago, her stage presense consisted of standing in the corner of the stage and smoking one cigarette after another. So I was surprised to find that Kelley Deal can actually play guitar (she's not exactly Eddie Van Halen; more like a poor man's Bob Mould), and that Kim Deal, who is smoking agagin, is a not only a powerful singer but a very funny frontperson with a well-tuned sense of the ridiculous. Her first words to the audience were "I'm in a bad mood" but you wouldn't have known it from her performance or the beatific look on her face throughout the show. The band put together a representative set including "You Can't Go Home" and "Safari" from the ep, and great versions of "Iris" from Pod and "Cannonball" from _Last Splash_. They even ventured their Aerosmith cover "Lord of the Thighs," intoned by bassist Josephine Wiggs in her charmingly British and very un-Aerosmith-like vocal style. On record, the Breeders seem a bit scattered but their live set is solid and forceful, not to mention a lot of fun. And to think I doubted them! That's all for me. Next week I might get it together to write up the Free Kitten, Lou Barlow (!) show which I will be attending Saturday night at the Middle East. All I can say is, I better get in. Lise LePage [lepagel/mf@hermes.bc.edu] in Boston <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Mark Bunster <mbunster@hibbs.vcu.edu> Subject: urge reporter kill Urge Overkill--Sept 15 at the Flood Zone Richmonders may or may not think, as the lawyer for the mom who took her grandchild away from her lesbian daughter said, that people in DC and LA are "stark raving mad." They may be forgiven, however, for worrying what Chicago ret-fashion combo Urge Overkill would be like as houseguests in their stunning Victorian row houses. Sweaty, anemic and beergutted, with a furious, bored energy, the trio + hometown bassist (whose name rumbled through the Flood Zone's squawkbox PA as "MR BRMRBLE TREECH!") finished off a set of crescendo-ed intensity with an encore that featured their all-too-unexpected-anymore "surprise" MTV hit Sister Havana, and a guest appearance by opening act The Shams singing backup. The Shams, by the way, seemed awfully saccharine and fluffy, something you wouldn't expect to find on Cosloy's Matador. Anyhow, UO certainly seemed to enjoy the hospitality of a typical September evening's return to the heat and humidity of July. The white, wide lapeled blazers, loan-shark vests, and giant gold UO medallions that Messrs Kato, Roesser and Onassis had on miraculously stayed glued to their chests while they wheeled around in enjoyment. Onassis (Blackie) was particularly sloppy and frenetic, much like Martha Stewart would be if she cooked high on a bunch of reds. He got the job done, but his tiny little kit didn't seem to want to follow his hands around as he swung his arms wildly and quickly. Even so, the most notable lesson learned from the live UO experience is that they can lose themselves in temporary individual frenzy, then miraculously all end up with the same chopped Les Paul guitar rthymns that make Saturation, their majlab debut on Geffen, a strong album that rides the rail of cheesiness without falling off. I used to think the cleanliness of sound that marked Saturation was less than the optimum sandpaper scratch of Stull (a tune they performed live with an extended skquonk), but the muddy and torn-speaker sound of the getting-more-henious-everyday Flood Zone (charging under21's an extra buck is lame lame lame) left a lot of good noise sounding like bad noise. Like the summer heat, the sweet memory of Nash Kato's stringy, greasy hair, slitted eyelids, pale swollen belly, platform shoes and raspy voice will fade away until they decide to come back. Maybe I'll go buy the new Meatloaf album if I get a jones for something really ugly that plays guitar. Doug Wilder needs a new job, can you help? M o R - Mark Bunster |Exchange conversation if you dare-- Survey Research Lab--VCU |Share an empty thought or a laugh. Richmond, VA 23220 | mbunster@hibbs.vcu.edu | (804) 367-8813/353-1731 | -edFROM <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Douglas Wolk <dbcloud@panix.com> Subject: I-L: Pinball with the stars Indie highlight of my week was definitely getting to play pinball with Mark E. Smith last night. He won, and also approved that Fall-tribute compilation I've been working on for months. This is good, as the Wedding Present track just arrived in the mail and the TV Personalities are supposedly sending theirs... Saw the Fall on Friday night with Superchunk and Free Kitten. FK are still doing the same damn material they were doing a year and a half ago, and none of it's gotten any good yet, despite the new members: Mark (Pavement) Ibold and Yoshimi from the Boredoms, who was the one really good thing about the set. They also name-checked God Is My Co-Pilot from the stage, which made me feel nice. Superchunk are, well, Superchunk. Superchunk springs eternal. They're still doing pretty much their old thing, too. I'd have been pretty annoyed except that they now have enough terrific songs to fill up most of a set: "The Question Is How Fast" is an incredibly great song and I'll listen to it any time they feel like playing it. But I can't really deal with seeing Superchunk more than once a year or so, and I was reminded of why. And The Fall, well, they just didn't seem to happy to be there, although Mark did get pretty passionate during a lengthy version of "Big New Prinz," and they did play "Dead Beat Descendant." Wish they weren't ignoring all the material from their first twelve years, though. Saturday night was considerably more fun: I got to see the last-ever performance of Naked City (at the Knitting Factory). It was PACKED, but not unreasonably so. This was the last of an eight-show stand: the first seven shows were all their songs in chronological order, and this was the all-request show, from a request sheet that had been downstairs for a while. They started with a Messiaen piece, then did some film music and covers ("Pet Sounds"!), then brought out Yamatsuka Eye for a cover of "Super Stupid" and a bunch of the tiny _Torture Garden_ pieces. It was great, y'know, Zorn announces "Speedfreaks!" Audience cheers, band tunes and plays it for 30 seconds. Zorn announces "New Jersey Scum Swamp!" Same procedure. Zorn announces "No Reason To Believe!" Audience doesn't cheer. "Well, somebody requested it." They play it. "Igneous Ejaculation!" Audience cheers. Band plays "Happy Birthday"--it was Zorn's 40th. That was followed by a DNA cover and some more film music, but the _Torture Garden_ stuff was the best. Wow. Got a couple of new records yesterday. Be warned that Liz Phair's "Carnivore" single is flat-out awful, the first actively bad thing I've heard from her. That it's just got two different versions of the same song and has Liz in glamour-girl pose on the cover doesn't help. Crayon's "The Snap-Tite Wars" single, on the other hand, is TOTALLY FUN and has an okay Some Velvet Sidewalk cover on the flip. And the EP that comes with the new Bananafish has Wingtip Sloat doing World of Pooh's "I'm On The Wrong Side," which is pretty neat. Hey, anybody got a copy of The Go Team's _Your Pretty Guitar_ that they don't want any more? Douglas D. Wolk dbcloud@panix.com "Teenage angst has paid off well. Now I'm bored and old." <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Michiel <S0477311@let.rug.nl> Subject: Indie_list contribution...Yippee-a-yo! Blood on th saddle, Vera 16-09-'93 Yippee-a-yo, this is the kind of cross-over music you can't afford to miss. Blood on the saddle is of course a punk band playing bluegrass. Or at least playing old country classics like Johnny Cash's "Ring Of Fire" or "Rawhide". I've never been that keen on country, it was always my dads music, but this seems to make sense. At least they were good enough to make me buy a shirt (which is quite something, it usually takes me a couple of gigs to make me buy anything beside an album (I mean vinyl!!)). I guess it's just the enormous amount of fun they caused. Playing bluegrass on his modified Telecaster (Is the neck made out of Rosewood? I'm not sure..,it looked like it. Can anybody tell me what kinda bridge pickup Greg Davis is using? It looked quite cheap but it might as well be a Bill Lawrence) Greg Davis (Vandals) seems to have found a perfect mixture of old fashioned and "slightly more modern" music. His voice sounded a bit grumpy, which fitted perfectly with the music. Ceasar Viscarra was the man with bass, Danny Rickard did the drumming. Looking like Duff from that band Bums N' Poses Ceasar Viscarra was the heavy guy on stage. Long hair, cowboy hat, Yamaha bass, one foot on his monitor cabinet, yeah that's the way I like it (it sure makes me laugh). I must be careful not to like punk that much,it would ruin my image, but it was a pity I had to play competition matches this weekend (anybody ever heard about canoepolo?) so I couldn't see their gigs in other towns. For those European readers: check them out and have fun, Blood on the saddle is touring now! Well that's it for now, so goodbye n' :-), Mike s0477311@let.rug.nl <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Jesper Sandvad <js@kom.auc.dk> Subject: INDIE: Reading '93 review (better late than never?) I know it's a bit late for this, but I haven't seen any Reading Festival reviews on the list. Reading Festival is a three day indie music festival in England with lots of great bands, IMHO consistently the best line-up in Europe every year (with Phoenix on a close second this year). I'll review the bands I saw friday this week, hopefully I'll be able to finish the rest later. TOOL opened friday on the main stage (an open air stage), an American grunge/metal combination, lots of noise and jumping around, but the standard metal riffs got on my nerves, and I went over to Melody Maker tent to watch FENN, a Scottish band named after Sherilyn Fenn. They played some sort of shoegazing or early Sonic Youth guitar noise, except for the drummer who could have played for Metallica. Liked the guitars, but the drummer spoiled it all. **1/2. Next band on main stage was GALLON DRUNK. According to the festival program, they see themselves as a combination of James Brown, Pharaoh Saunders, Dean Martin, Oliver Reed and Einsturzende Neubauten. I see them as a combination of Nick Cave, Birthday Party, Birthday Party, Nick Cave and Nick Cave. Which is not too bad, actually, the show was very good, and would probably have been great if it wasn't for the sun shining. They would have been better in a pitchblack night with thunder rumbling in the distance or something. *1/2. I dropped Bad Brain on Main stage, and watched GREEN APPLE QUICK- STEP on mm stage instead. Just what the world needs. Another Pearl Jam wannabe. ** And, not being crazy about Pearl Jam, I also skipped Stone Temple Pilots on main, and watched FLAMING LIPS instead. I am probably the only reader on this list who haven't heard a thing with Flaming Lips. From what I've heard about them, I expected a cacophony of noisy guitars and dissonances, but they were almost pleasant. Quirky and strange, but pleasant. A really nice 'stand and listen' experience (as opposed to a 'jumping around frantically' experience). *1/2. I expected the 'jumping around frantically' experience from the next band on main, BABES IN TOYLAND. I like that band a lot. I was really looking forward to watching that band, and go home to my friends and say 'Babes in Toyland were amazing'. Unfortunately, they weren't. They may have been great in a 200 people club, but on the main stage in front of 20.000 people, it just didn't work. Damn. **1/2. Next on main stage was BUTTHOLE SURFERS. Almost the same story as with Babes in Toyland, high expectations etc., except that Buttholes WERE amazing. Everything I had hoped they would be and more, crazy, noisy and intense. **1/2 I was totally wasted after Buttholes, so I missed the beginning of NEDS ATOMIC DUSTBIN. I didn't mind too much, the part I saw was terribly boring. **1/2. Almost everybody I know likes RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE. Everybody at Reading liked RATM. I don't. So I guess my opinion on the show isn't too interesting. PORNO FOR PYROS were headlining on main stage. I have only heard the album once, but I liked it a lot, it sounded like Jane's Addiction without the stupid songs. The first song lasted forever, with Farrell ranting about suffering and calling the audience 'cunts'. I simply lost interest after 20 minutes and left. Nobody I talked to afterwards liked them. Oh well. ** That's all for this time, hope I'll find time to do the rest before next week. Jesper js@kom.auc.dk <-----------------------------------------------------> From: Sean Keric Murphy <skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Subject: More Cherry Red fascinations Well, I was sitting around last night (Sunday) and started working on taping this pile of stuff my friend lent me this summer - all early 80s brit stuff. I get through Tracey Thorn's solo lp _A Distant Shore_, and I'm just amazed at how great she was and get bummed thinking about how she hasn't done anything worthwhile in the last 10 years with Everything But The Girl. So, I'm thinking, "it must be that damn Ben Watt's fault, he's the one who ruined everything and created that lounge-sludge stuff" and then turn to the next record in my pile, and it's Ben Watt's EP _Summer Into Winter_, recorded in 1982 along with Robert Wyatt. And I listen, and it's great! More slow, introspective "wimp-pop" that spawned 100 bands on the Sarah label like the Field Mice. So now I'm torn - it can't be Tracey's fault that EBTG sucks, but now it's not conclusively Ben's fault either! How do I explain this problem? (Current reasoning - Robert Wyatt's presence twisted the Ben Watt EP just enough that it's interesting - Ben is still responsible for wasting Tracey's voice for the past 10 years.) Also in that pile was an EP from the Patrik Fitzgerald Group, people I had never heard of. It's also really cool - sparse, edgy, some synth, some guitar, twisted lyrics...why didn't I ever hear this stuff when it was current? Oh yeah, I was 9 or 10 and listening to Air Supply 'cause that's what came on my parents' radio... :) Anyway, it's been one of those weekends where I alternate between a. wanting automatic weapons to blow away large numbers of drunk people late wandering past my room late at night (the path to the 24-hour convenient store runs right past my room); and b. crawling into a small, dark room listening to that Tracey Thorn LP and not much else for the next year or so...man, I'm beginning to think that relationships are highly overrated, especially if this is how I feel when I'm not in one... Sean P.S. - listen to "You're The Man" from the new Karl Hendricks Trio LP (which is fabulous - _Misery And Women_ is the title) and then Hurl's "Radishes" and tell me if you think they're practically the same song in places...no blame assessment here, just curiosity. And then listen to "Big Store" by the Jacobites and crawl deeper into that dark corner. <-----------------------------------------------------> the Indie-List Digest: published every Tuesday by the Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. Editorial office: Mark Cornick <cornick@delphi.com> K. Lena Bennett <keb@carson.u.washington.edu> Subscription requests: Liz Clayton <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu> Back issue service: Sean Murphy <skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu> FTP: /pub/music/lists/indie @ ftp.uwp.edu Indie-List is not copyrighted. It may be freely reproduced for any purpose. Please cite Indie-List as your source. REVIEW MATERIAL: Yes, we'll review your 45/tape/CD/8-track/Edison wax cylinder/zine/whatever! Send it to Mark at 324 S Cherry St, Richmond VA 23220 USA. 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