Indie-List_V2_N36 The Indie List Digest Volume 2, Number 36 December 7, 1993 Princeton * Seattle * Chicago * Raleigh This issue of the Indie List is dedicated to the memory of Frank Zappa, who passed away over the weekend. His musicianship and originality will be sorely missed by music listeners everywhere. In this issue: Radiopuhelimet/Circle at I-klubi, Tampere, Finland 11/26/93 Compound Red's _Mr. Microcosm_ Mazzy Star review Bits and pieces (Earl's Family Bombers, the Cleavers, etc...) Mazzy Star/St. Johnny/That Dog @ The Whisky 12/03/93 (Sold-Out) dambuilders, scarce, smack mellon Debut of Bing Hi, I'm a new guy CD version of The Fall's GROTESQUE Ride The Tiger: Yo La Tengo and...for your prospective purchasing future... ********ADS************ craw advertisment Drummer Wanted (LA) blatant self promotion... BUT FIRST, THESE ADMINISTRATIVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. 1. Thank you everyone for writing for the I-L - it's amazing how much more interesting things are when I don't already know all the authors. BUT, please include the words "Indie" or "I-L" or something similar in the subject of your mail to Lena - she's a busy person who receives lots of mail each day. This little marker allows her to save these messages quickly and efficiently for your future reading pleasure. 2. On a similar note, I promise to always make the subject of an official Indie-List mailing begin with the words "Indie-List" so that people with sophisticated news-reader systems can accomodate our postings and know what's coming - I'm starting to realize how much it sucks to get caught reading a really long post at 2400 baud... 3. Indie-List will probably continue to operate during the upcoming non-denominational holiday season, although at a slower pace. So, don't freak if you don't receive a regularly scheduled i-l; the regular schedule will not apply between December 17 and January 3. (Yes, even I need a break and will get to see my parents for a few days...) 4. With the end of the school semester comes departures from school and the loss of computer accounts. To save the already-schized out minds of Liz and myself, please let us know if you're losing your account by mailing such information to LIZ. As much as I care, it's not my job to update the mail files. Not much else to say right now...I've been grooving to all the neat stuff I bought last week (which I reviewed last issue...) and alternately mourning the break-up of Tiger Trap (as noted on various other mailing lists in the last couple days...various net-folk were present at the last Tiger Trap show...sniff, sniff). Sean skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu P.S. Paul, I promise I'll do a review of Runt with mailing address included for the next issue...really! &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Sami Rouhento <trsaro@uta.fi> Radiopuhelimet/Circle at I-klubi, Tampere, Finland 11/26/93 Now here's something that's definitely not US-centric: the two best Finnish noisy rock'n'roll bands playing at the sleaziest little rock club in my very own home town of Tampere, Finland! I arrived a bit late, Circle were already head and shoulders into their first song. The first thing I noticed as I entered was how dark it was in there, no lights at all except for a little one at the bar and a couple of flashing lights and stroboscopes onstage. Another thing was the volume, it was really loud, it hurt and it was really GREAT. This unconventional lightshow and the hideous volume combined with their monomanic and mesmerizing musical approach is apt to put the receptive listener into a trance. Actually, they don't seem to be quite as monomanic as they used to be, they've added a keyboard/sequencer- handling fella and he really gives a new dimension to their semi-chaotic guitar-driven sound. Circle's debut album due for release in early '94 on Bad Vugum, I can't say how thrilled I am to hear this. Well, even better things were yet to come because in no time Radiopuhelimet took the stage and they seemed to be in a rocking form this Friday evening. Starting off cool as always, the vocalist JA M{ki soon lost control of his behaviour and went into the spastic in fits -routine, which is really entertaining to watch. I'll have to say he must be the most impressing frontman I have ever witnessed, all cool and aggressive and arrogant at the same time, a perfect antithesis to the rest of the band who just stand there as if riveted to the spot, expressionless and indifferent. Musically they never fail to deliver, but make their unique blend of hardcore, minimalistic funk and pure old rock'n'roll sound always severe, noncompromising, tight, and abrasive as hell! I tell you, I still haven't stopped shaking from the sheer power of their encore, a ripping version of Little Richard's "Keep on Knockin'". The most intensive live show in '93, no doubt. It may be that most of you Indie-List readers will never have the chance to see either of these bands, but I sincerely hope you will. Sami &&&&&&&&&&&&& From: SIERACKIR@vmsf.csd.mu.edu Compound Red's _Mr. Microcosm_ COMPOUND RED Mr. Microcosm CD Hardspun records Compound Red is a little Milwaukee phenomenon that have been around for years, and this is their first full-length. Elements of bands they listen to, like Fugazi, Samiam, Jawbox on the Dischord/all ages punk side as well as some European pop influences, somewhere near Swervedriver though that's not quite right, are present, too. (Actually the Euro-pop strain in them may have filtered through their friendship with Sometime Sweet Susan, another Milwaukee band that dabbles on the Wedding Present, Swervedriver, early New Order, side of things.) Put out by their lonesome selves. ** --Rob S. &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Michael Lim <mlim@sdcc13.ucsd.edu> Mazzy Star/St. Johnny/That Dog Live review. Well, last week was a good one, as I got to see Mazzy Star twice, at the Belly-Up in San Diego and at The Whiskey in LA. Both nights were great, even though the sets were nearly identical and the music was nearly identical to the record. The songs were pretty much an even mix off of their 2 albums, they played "Hallah" and "Ride It On" off the first album, which were highlights for me. They played about 6 songs off their latest album, but unfortunately they didn't play "Fade Into You" or "5 String Seranade." For the encore, they did, "Into Dust," which is an amazing, quiet, haunting, emotional song...it starts with acoustic guitar and also has violin. The Belly-Up in San Diego is sorta a bar where a lot of people just go to get wasted, and I suspect a lot of the 300 or so people there didn't even know who Mazzy Star were. During "Into Dust" singer Hope got a bit pissed, and goes, "If you came here to talk, you should move to the back...we've been listening to your conversations the whole night....it's pretty FUCKING annoying!" Classic! Nonetheless, people kept yappin'. Does anybody know about the openers That Dog? They were quite good, I've never heard of them, but apparently they've signed with DGC. I don't know how to describe them...I suppose they reminded me of Lush, in their harmonies and song arrangements, but they are not etherial or dreamy in the least. They have a violinist, which added a great touch. St. Johnny were terrible, but I won't elaborate. FYI, I saw Courtney Love at the Whiskey show. Coming soon...live reviews of Spinanes in SF and Teenage Fanclub. -Mike &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Bill Whitson <bill@booster.u.washington.edu> Bits and pieces (Earl's Family Bombers, the Cleavers, etc...) Lots going on around Seattle right now for underagers like me, hopefully it will keep up. Impressions of people I've seen recently: Earl's Family Bombers. I like the Supersuckers. I like the Fluid. I therefore like these guys. They do absolutely nothing new. They aren't very creative. They won't turn your indie rock world upside down. They are fun though. They played to a crowd of five people and I think I was the only one who'd ever heard of them. They did a pretty short set (understandable I think, under the circumstances) of speedy, high energy rock. Sometimes you've just got to forget the politics, the artyness, the heavy concepts and just rock. Talked to 'em for a while and it turns out they've moved up here. They're gonna take a lot of heat for that. Check out their new 7" on eMpTy. The Cleavers. Hmm... y'know these guy's are from AZ and so were EFB - I wonder if this is saying something. The Cleavers are hillarious. Their style can be summed up by what the guitarrist said in the middle of the show "The Cleaver's are known world-wide for their versatility!" They ranged from jazz to funk to Melvin's style rock to art fuckery sometimes all within one song. On top of it all they remained funny as hell - recruiting members of the audience to sing for them and giving them the wrong lines, etc. I seriously doubt I'd buy anything recorded but I'd definitely go see them live again. Hush Harbor. You're going to be hearing about these guys from people who get paid a lot to write this kinda stuff very soon. This is one of those bands that has such skill and brilliance that they need none of the traditional gimmicks. You could probably pin them into the Slint/ Engine Kid style if you really needed a reference. More melodic and less "tempo-varying". Better lyrics (IMO of course) and very skilled musicians. Amazing live. Spinanes. Well everyone's been writing about how great the spinnanes are. I've got a couple 7"s and I think they're great. I haven't bothered to pick up the new album yet. At any rate - I think they're good recorded but I got bored pretty quick seeing them live. Yeah, they're good musicians, and they were witty, and the crowd was really into them but I was yawning when they were halfway through. Hm. -Bill Whitson bill@booster.u.washington.edu &&&&&&&&&&&& From: "Jonathan L. Tronson" <73543.3230@CompuServe.COM> Mazzy Star/St. Johnny/That Dog @ The Whisky 12/03/93 (Sold-Out) First off, we were disappointed to find out that Codeine* had been replaced (Argh!) by That Dog between the time we had bought our tickets and showtime,reason unknown. That Dog played 2 new songs from their upcoming CD that kept their set semi-fresh. Even though I've seen them way too many times, as compared to other local bands, they definitely provide an entertaining half-hour or so of happy, harmony-laden tunes. Their double 7" EP on Magnatone/Jamboree is more than worth grabbing up. Despite Petra's ongoing battle with some short in her violin's pickup cord (even analog technology has it's problems!) she, Rachel (4-string) and Anna (open strings) provided ample tones over which their three-way harmony was able to muscle its way into every nook and $5 beer cup at the Go-Go. Tony, their token male humanoid, remained in his own world behind the drums. * For further explaination listen to the 6-song "Barely Real" CD on SUB POP. St. Johnny was destined for failure it seemed this night. To be placed between two 4AD-esque acts didn't help much either. Except for a single, semi-conscious, self-admitted "headbanger," this group didn't find an ounce of support. Why I don't know (call it naiveity!?) Their set was short and tart. At one point the lead singer asked very cooly, fingering the person next to me,to "come up here" after kicking off the stage some sort of spent projectile. St. Johnny made very clear to the audience that the song they were performing was the last of the night and probably the last for la-la land (or at least The Whisky and proximity.) I only enjoyed two of their songs, even though they sounded like very much like Further covers. Mazzy Star didn't start till 10:45 (really late for The Whisky), but it was definitely worth the wait. Having shedded the bitter memory of St. J and the disappointment over the lack of Codeine, the sight of Hope sent warm, fuzzy feelings down my spine. I must tell you I am a great admirer of Mazzy Star/Opal/etc.to say the least, so it would be hard not to rave about their performance. However, I will make a comparison between this show and the last I saw of their's- The Alligator Lounge 10/14 with Heidi Berry & Lotion. The latter I would rate a 7+, where as the former would rate a 9/10. Yes, super great! I swear David Roback freelances almost all the songs, keeping them fresh, yet gratifyingly familiar. Hope Sandoval seemed to keep the crowd well under her spell & control (unlike the show mentioned previously.) Their set went as follows: She Hangs..., Bells Ring, Halah, Mary of Silence, Ghost, Give you my..., Ride It On, She's My Baby, Flowers, Blue Light, Blue Flower, 1st Encore: Into Dust, Hair and Skin, 2nd Encore: So Tonight... As you can see not all of their set was from their lastest CD "So Tonight That I Might See." Every song was incredible, and each band member (up to 6) are great musicians in their own right. Even though they're on Capitol, as David said in an interview regarding big label relationships, names are just names, people are just people. They've definitely maintained a small label sound, albeit highly polished. Long live psychedelic Telecasters and red, contoured, velvety dresses. &&&&&&&&&&&& From: spaceboy <TROUTMAN@MIDD.bitnet> dambuilders, scarce, smack mellon @ middle east, boston 12/02/93 ----------------------------------------------------------------- hey all! ok, i'll admit it, i'm a slut for the dambuilders... their music makes my knees wobbly and gives me a major case of "the sighs" 8). so, after a three-and-a-quarter hour drive, i found myself at boston's famed middle east restaurant/club. i could feel the coolness in the air as soon as i walked through the doors; everyone i saw looked cool and looked like they were all having meaningful and enjoyable conversations about cool things. argh! i wish i lived in boston... i could easily go broke in a few weeks. [ObNitPick: the Middle East is located in the People's Democratic Republic of Cambridge, MA, not Boston proper. :) - Sean] well, after paying my $8, i proceeded downstairs and plopped myself down at a table in front of the left loudspeaker with a perfect view of the stage. i missed the very first band but arrived just in time to see scarce go on. they are a highly enjoyable three-piece and what they lacked in tightness, they made up for with energy. the bassist is a crazy woman, dancing around and just generally enjoying herself. it was very fun, guitar pop music which brought more than a few smiles to my face. i'm not sure about what they've released since this was my first introduction to the band. i can see them as a band that (if they stay together) could only get better. (**) next, smack melon went on. again, prior to entering the middle east, i had never heard of these guys. one thing i will say in their favor is that they were very tight. however, their music just seemed to lack something... i wasn't really moved either way by their performance. the were pretty hard but still in the guitar pop/rock mode. i flip-flopped back in forth between liking and hating the singer's voice. i liked it a lot when he was being melodic but disliked it when he was shouting. i guess the main reason i couldn't get into these guys was that they didn't seem to have a unifying element in their sound (except for the fact that they played it very tight.) i found that their music was very sporadic. (**1/2) well, next up were the dambuilders <sigh>. it was a record-release party for their new single on rockville records: "new jersey" and "wyoming" b/w "oregon". the band seemed at ease and it truly was a party type, informal atmosphere. they only played for about an hour (including encore) but they can do so much in such a short period of time. i think the highlight of the set was a song which i assume is called "antiseptic" cuz that's what it sounds like they're shouting during the chorus. also kevin handing out cookies was fun (that's probably just my stomach talking though.) overall, a fantastic performance. (***) got to talk with eric and dave for a little bit before and after the show. they are now going to hawaii to mix a new record. no recording contract as of yet but dave says, "it'll get out somehow." as for the single itself, it is very good. "new jersey" and "wyoming" are incredible, in the same vein as the stuff of the tough guy ep. i don't know what to make of "oregon" at this time. it wallows... more so than even "idaho". this is not necessarily a bad thing as i'm a big fan of lament-rock (e.g. american music club) but i'm not sure if it works with "oregon"... more listenings might be in order here. wow, this was longer than i had originally intended... sorry. take it easy, michael. p.s. i have fallen head over heels for the new tiger trap 10"! (***+) ----------------------------------------------------- "groovin' to a new sin" troutman@middlebury.edu, troutman@midd.bitnet &&&&&&&&&&&& From: UN050077@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU Subject: Debut of Bing Hi everybody. I'm Bing. I've been lurking off and on for some time. I've decided to forcefully inject myself into the indie list community. I don't have a heck of a lot to write about content wise for this article, but I thought I would just take the opportunity to introduce myself. Hopefully this will lay the foundation for some semi-regular articles from the land of Bing. (I make no promises) Some of you may know me from my BBS. I run a punk/indie rock BBS called Bing's Haus of Soft, Creative, Non-Violent Playthings. (Yes, it's also the record label responsible for bands such as Lack-a-Daisy and Swiss Army Tractor. Look for a big ol' box-set in the near future.) We've got message areas for discussion of things like indie gossip, reviews, and indie theories. (That's my pet term for discussions such as, "I don't buy major label stuff because..." and "Major labels discourage originality in music because..." etc.) We also have more traditional BBS discussion areas for things like religion and politics (with a slightly anarchist slant to it thanks to the efforts of myself and a few of the users). I've made an effort to keep the BBS focused on indie rock, and not let it get dilluted to the point where it resembles a general-interest BBS. I think I've been somewhat successful in that respect. (pat, pat) The file areas are all text. We've got all the punkesque lyrics from CS.UWP.EDU available, as well as the complete Indie-List archives (finally). I just finished setting up the archives so that they can be read and searched while online. I'll be making the Punk-List and Grunge-List archives available in the near future. The latest addition to Bing's Haus is the addition of UseNet newsgroups. Thanks to a local BBS which set up a UseNet/Fidonet gateway, we now have 29 of the more (umm...) punk-related newsgroups online as message bases. That's no biggie for those of us in the internet community, but it's a real treat for the users without net access. (plus it's nice to have my favorite newsgroups on my own computer.) Unfortunately, we don't have e-mail ability on Bing's Haus yet, but we're working on it. So... If you'd like to call th' Haus, the two numbers are (304)291-3046 [14.4K baud], and (304)292-4054 [2400 baud]. <whisper mode on> There's a little trick which will let you avoid the long-distance costs by telnetting to the West Virginia University dialout modems, and then placing the local call to Bing's Haus. It's perfectly legal of course, but WVU doesn't like it. If you'd like to do some experimentation for me, e-mail me and I'll tell you how it's done. <whisper mode off> What else do I do? Hmm... Sang for a couple of bands. Reflexive Repetition (artsy new-age folk punk shit) and The Red Oak Conspiracy (rock shit consisting of people from Admiral, Moon, Encounter, One, Tooling for Bovines, Karma to Burn). Neither did much outside of Morgantown. Red Oak did a disasterous tour with Jade from Baltimore (the rock band, not the R&B group) where we went from Morgantown, WV to San Diego and back, playing a total of 3 shows ($75 altogether). Some guy from Trusty (heh... how ironic) booked the tour for us. I think his name was Mike, or Dave or something (selective memory). Anyway. He told us that he had booked 30 shows in 31 days for us. It wasn't until we got to San Diego that we found out that he hadn't even contacted half the clubs. We came home $2000 in the hole. Jade supposedly sued him. I don't know what happened with that. The moral of the story? DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!! I learned the hard way. Anyway, those bands are all broken up, so don't look for me in a town near you any time soon. Sorry for the big self-indulgent article about me. I just felt like I had to get all those little details out in the open so that you all know where I'm coming from. Now that all that nonsense is out of the way, I can concentrate on music in my future articles. (of course, I'll also keep everybody posted on any signifigant changes in Bing's Haus.) Thanks for hearing me out. I'll be seein' ya. Bing Hypotenuse (aka Curtis Duhn) - UN050077@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU Bing's Haus: (304)291-3046/(304)292-4054 [Quick plug - those Lack-A-Daisy singles are really cool, and I'm still trying to find copies... - Sean] &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Chris Khoury <ckhoury@cps201.cps.cmich.edu> Hi, i just joined the indie list a few days ago.. and got hte first issue, and i must say, its much more impressive than GRUNGE-L which i'm going to sign off of. [You mean it's working again? Last I saw, everyone got kicked off, then invited to rejoin, and the level of discussion didn't improve any... and then there were reports this summer of the list being locked - nobody gets in or out...weird. At least there are options for post-GRUNGE-L types... - Sean] well, anyway, my name is Chris, and i'm in a Michigan rock band called Gimpknuckle.. and i play bass.. but thats just a side thing. I'm a student. my brother runs a record company out of Ann Arbor, called Uprising Records, that puts out a lot of cool stuff, so send e-mail if you want info.. right now, on my record player i have Pussy Galore "Feel Good About Your Body" playing.. darn good.. today I went shopping and bought a Laughing Hyenas album "Crawl" and a king kong LP (former members of the legendary god-like Slint.).. I'm also a very loyal and faithful fan (despite the brakeup) of Nation of Ulysses. (All praise is due.), although i think the cupid car club sux.. Has anyone heard the new Hammerhead EP? how about Pain Teens 'Destroy me Lover" [No clue on new Hammerhead - any thoughts, Josh B.? New Pain Teens kinda sucked IMO. - Sean] see ya ---Christopher &&&&&&&&&&&& From: jac15@po.cwru.edu CD version of The Fall's GROTESQUE Last night I was reveling listening for the first time to my new CD copy of the Fall's early masterpiece, Grotesque (after the Gramme). My vinyl copy is practically worn through from overplaying, so I was really happy to find the reissued cd of it. It's put out by a label I never heard of, not Dojo, not Line, some other company, _____Classics is the name, forget the ___ part. In conjunction with Cog Sinister, that is. For the most part it sounds really great--you can hear some really quiet stuff between some of the songs, tuning up, mumbling, etc. And the sound of the instruments is quite amazing: the sound of the acoustic guitars (!) on C 'n' C-Stop Mithering at the beginning is beautiful (!!) and when the drum come in with that incessant 1-2-X-1 beat---so cool!! You can really hear a lot of stuff going on deep in the recordings...one of the cool things about analog recording, I think, is that you don't really filter stuff out the way digital recording does (ahh--I know I am not really up-to-snuff in my knowledge in this area, but I know about things like "noise gates"--ugh!). In between the loud bits, there is a lot going on MAN. One minor complaint, and this was brought up earlier on the Fall list, is that some of the songs are slightly cut off at the end--I noticed this especially at the end of C'n'C, where they cut out a whole drum-beat that is on the vinyl version, so the segue into Container Drivers comes just a split second too soon...there is a small small gap in the original, but not here. Same thing after W.M.C.-Blob 59, there is supposed to be a brief pause there before The N.W.R.A. starts (I love all these abbreviated song titles!! hilarious!)(For non-Fall list-ers, C'n'C=Cash and Carry; WMC=Working Mens Clubs; NWRA=the North Will Rise Again) that is missing here. These may seem like minute complaints, but I just think it's odd, like they had to remix and reedit each song seperately, and when they glued them back together they had to trim the edges or something. Also--- It kind of pisses me off that they reissued the Slates 10" ep in combination with the live "Parts of America Therein". "Parts" is really not that great of a record, IMO,..nothing really new or different about it. It's ok, but not even close to how great Slates as a seperate entity is. If anything, they should have put Slates together with Grotesque, whose style more closely resesmbles that of Slates..that would have been great, I love Slates nearly as much as I love Grotesque. Too bad they couldn't have put Slates out on one of those 3" cd's! Thank you for your time. JC (biting the hand that stabs me) &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Glenn Susser <glenns@panix.com> Ride The Tiger: Yo La Tengo Either everyone's zoned out, or I'm the only deprived sob who's only getting to hear Yo La's first album now. Ride the Tiger was only released as vinyl (1986) and has only been available (or rather unavailable) as a German import (Twin/Tone.) The cd reissue (1993), strangely enough, is also an import -- City Slang. The reissue has FOUR COOL bonus tracks, and waywaycool liner notes, written by the critic, Ira Kaplan. But first, a word on the original RTT. It's produced by Mission of Burma bassist Clint Conley and contains some fine guitar playing by Dave Schramm. And it ain't TOO obvious who Ira's big influence is, Lou Reed. There's a cover of that great Kinks song, Big Sky (doesn't Ira pick the coolest songs to cover??,) but Forest Green, The Cone of Silence, and the 1st version of The Evil That Men Do really make the album a shear pleasure. Cooooooooool liner notes! Check out those photos of Georgia -- one on the elk statue outside Hoboken's Elks Club. Check out the original ads put in the Village Voice for help wanted. Check out the posters from Maxwells and Folk City (yep!) with YLT gettin' second billing to The dB's -- ummmmmm, $3! And check out the less than rave review from The Columbus Dispatch (12/8/85) of their 1st single. (What the fuck is the Columbus Dispatch doing reviewing the first YLT single????) And the best for last -- the liner notes by Ira where be does a bio on early Yo La. The 4 bonus tracks include the first single -- The River of Water/A House is Not a Motel recorded 5/85 and 2 live cuts, Crispy Duck/Closing Time recorded live on cassette 4/86 and previously unreleased. No offense, (maybe a little since I spent 4 culturally deprived years there) but the Columbus Dispatch is a no bit no class rag. The River of Water/A House is Not a Motel is great. House is a cover of Arthur Lee's (Love -- ya remember them anyone?) great original. And The River is better than any tune on Ride the Tiger. The live cuts are kind of mediocre. So, is this all old news to everyone and am I talking to myself? And speaking of Lou Reed, he's gonna be live and in person (so they say) in a conference on compuserve on december 17. If anyone wants to ask him anything, and NOT like when are the Velvets gonna do a US tour cuz Lou already told ya in 37 years (on 120 minutes) - send me email. [Glenn later sent this correction:] The vinyl was originally released by Coyote -- the cd format was the import. I'm not 100% sure on this, but it looks like City Slang in Germany originally released the cd version, as well as the reissue. I snatched up Ray Gun today when I saw Yo La on the cover, not to mention L7 and Moby and, on further inspection, "I Dig Redd Kross" by Thurston Moore, and an interview with the spinanes rebecca gates. (i try and try and try to hate this pretentious, gaudy rag, but they seem to pack every issue with great interviews.) I won't spoil it, except -- did y'all know georgia and ira were married? i feel pretty dumb. Oh, and guess who Georgia and Those Guys was (is!) And sue me, but I gotta tell ya, georgia and ira appear on the new solo recording by tara key (antietam.) Alright, now i'm gonna completely blow it -- only cuz i wanna know -- who heard of sleeping pill? described in rg as an avant garde PERCUSSION (for those who commented on chugchanga that yo la is a cool drumerLESS band at times) ensemble featuring georgia and james BOTH on drums, and ira on, er, MARACAS!! georgia: it's a very noisy sort of arty thing that goes on for about 40 minutes. what's next? people? ********ADS************ From: "R. Brockway" <rockie@neurosis.wariat.org> craw advertisment The debut CD by Cleveland's CRAW is out now and available in stores nationwide. If unable to find it and want it, write to : CHOKE, INC. 1376 W. Grand Ave. Chicago, Il 60622 Be aware for shows in your town. "Listening to CRAW is the aural equivalent of being hit upside the head with a brick." - The Music Corner --------------------------------------------------------------------- R. Brockway Computer Security & Virus Specialist rockie@neurosis.wariat.org Research and Destroy ******************************************************************* &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Larry Jacobson <larryj@netcom.com> Advert: Drummer Wanted (LA) Drummer wanted by The Bunny Rabbits (in Los Angeles). Like Mekons, Big Star, Television Personalities, Gang of Four, Superchunk, Yma Sumac, but different. If interested, please E-mail: larryj@netcom.com Thanks very much. -Larry Jacobson &&&&&&&&&&&& From: searles@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU blatant self promotion... greetings once again from Burlington...it's time for some blatant self- promotion of my little label (and band)... the label is Club Fub, and we've put out a bunch of tapes so far, mostly of my band, hover, but also a couple cool compilations, and a couple other bands, too. We've got our first 7'' coming in the new year. The big news is that this week, hover's new tape 'thinsilverhorizon', got a pretty good review in CMJ...in the futures column...and we've been getting calls from labels and stuff. [There was more of this, but I had to delete it because WE ONLY ACCEPT ADS IF UNDER 10 LINES!! Let that be a lesson to all of you out there! Anyway, write to the address of the poster for more information.] One question before I go....does anyone know how much I should send to Shrimper for the new Sentridoh tape? [As far as I know Shrimper tapes are usually $3 - Lena] Oh, and what's up with the reissue of the early unrest albums on CD? Sorry, I had to mention Unrest somewhere in this message... [Story with Unrest re-issues: The first LP and first two singles will be on one CD, a Matador/TeenBeat split release, originally scheduled for January 1991, probably available in the new year in the next batch of Matador releases. The second LP, _Malcolm X Park_, and third LP, _Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation_, are supposed to be compiled on one CD to be titled "Black Power Dynamo." Caroline Records holds the rights to these recordings, and supposedly wants to cut a couple songs to make everything fit easily onto one CD (sorta bullshit, since the two LPs together are under 80 minutes, but that is getting near the limit of CD time-length...). Mark refuses to authorize an incomplete re-issue. The saga continues... - Sean] brad <------------------------------------------------------------> The Indie-List Digest is published every Tuesday and Friday by the Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. What Who Where Editor Sean Murphy skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu Moderator K. 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