Hey! Wade! I got a new complaint! ############################# Indie List Digest! May 15, 1994 Volume 3 Number 32 ############################# Versus, Kicking Giant, et al. Mr T experience, Bratmobile, Crackerbash reviews Pram, Sleeper, Orb Comments on previous reviews (Crash Worship, Skullflower, Orbital) C. Brotzmann, Skullflower Pavement & 3Ds in Cleveland ANNOUNCE: Road Cone Catalog ANNOUNCE: Booking Potential ANNOUNCE: Drive Like Jehu ANNOUNCE: Combustible Edison ------------------------------ From: Sean Keric Murphy <skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> A solid weekend of music-pickups... So, I take a weekend off from being in Princeton, NJ... head down to Washington, DC, and fall into a show I didn't even know was happening... Versus, Kicking Giant, and Purple Ivy Shadows at the Black Cat, 5/5/94 Purple Ivy Shadows started off with Chris playing a snare and an odd set-up of two cymbals lying on top of each other, Eric doing his usual guitar noodling, Brian (new, semi-permanent member) playing Chris' guitar, and Evan Shurak (of Eggs) on bass. Chris gave me the impression of someone who's been to the edge, lost it, and found himself dumped back into the world. this set was totally psycho - free jazz slamming into country singing into the old-school PIS drone-sound and back. Evan shifted to drums after the first song, with Chris sometimes playing guitar, sometimes sax, sometimes his odd drum kit. Their rendition of Kris Kristofferson's "Loving You Is The Easiest Thing I'll Ever Do" was absolutely amazing... soft country tune morphing over time into a post-Galaxie 500 drone with unsettling bits dropped in and Chris shouting chord changes to Brian... if they find a full-time drummer (Evan was just sitting in for the night and had never really played with them before), this new stuff will totally dwarf their recorded material (which I adore). New single out now on spinArt - about the last good thing I see that label doing, ever. Kicking Giant - Rachel Carns is a wonderful drummer - what she does with two toms, a snare, a hi-hat, and two cymbals, while standing up, is the stuff that Neil Peart dreams about. And Tae can play some really nice songs. When he decides to noodle about, though, leaving Rachel stranded on one drum beat for five minutes, it can get a little tiring. Particularly when you do it five times in a row without a "song" to break it up. All that said, I did enjoy the set... it just wasn't what I had been hoping for... ...a feeling which lasted through Versus' set. I'm probably biased because I've seen this band more times than I can remember and over time, I feel that they've gotten duller and more predictable. Their new LP had just arrived that day at TeenBeat headquarters, and the band focused on the new material - it's familiar, but dronier and less hook-oriented than older songs. I hate to say it, but I think I'd rather tell them to stop recording and stop playing for a while... this band is out of new ideas. (Or Richard and Ed have been dipping back into their old, pre-Versus material - more on that in a moment...) Overall - I was happy because I got to see KG for the first time in three years and PIS in a somewhat stable incarnation which has a million cool ideas going on. Versus was either not up to par or just have forgotten what made them exciting. Maybe having a Pearl Jam record named after them has gone to their heads. :) RECORDED MATERIAL: KING G AND THE J CREW, "Indestructible Songs Of The Humpback Whale" (Automatic Wreckords, P.O. Box 4759, Louisville, KY, 40204, or from Simple Machines, address below) It's 1991. There's this band in town that a few people have heard of called Slint, and they're about to break up after recording their second LP. You're a little younger than those Slint folks, hanging out in the same city as them, and you like Japanese horror films. So, what do you do? IF you said "form a new band called Rodan which will take over the known world in a short period of time," you'd be off by about 8-12 months. If, however, you said "hey, make a rap record sorta like the Beastie Boys, but weirder," you'd be right. This is what the Rodan folks (mostly Jason Noble and Jeff Mueller) were doing before Rodan started up. 16 songs, almost an hour long, totally wacked-out thundering bass, spastic lyrics, lots of live instruments, too. Fun and funny music - hard to see how these folks emerged into Rodan, but hell, who cares about that? ** FLOWER, "Concrete Sky (1987-90)" (Simple Machines, P.O. Box 10290, Arlington, VA, 22210-1290) Simple version of aural history: before there was Versus, there was Saturnine. And before Saturnine, there was Flower. Ed and Richard Baluyut, along with Andrew Bordwin (now in Ruby Falls) and Ian James (now in Cell). Their two old records (and a song from their debut EP) have now been compiled onto one CD. The sound - well, what do you expect a band based in NYC between 1986 and 1990 to sound like? Seriously, a heavy debt is owed to Sister-era Sonic Youth (minus some of the odd bits), but the songs are still pretty decent. And it's probably the only way you'll ever hear the original of the song Tsunami covered on the "Inclined Plane" single. *3/4 on a first listen, this one will probably grow on me. And I just wanted to finally say that I now understand the fascination many people seem to have with Guided By Voices. My friend Bryan sorta woke me up Saturday morning by playing the "Propeller" portion of the most recent GbV CD on Scat... and my jaw hit the floor almost instantly. Maybe I mised the review that talked about Syd Barrett, Skip Spence, the Kinks, and the amazing medley in which GbV take on Roky Erickson, Jonathan Richman, Stephen Stills, The Who, Neil Young, and a standard garage-band-with-an-overactive-wahwah-pedal by writing snippets of songs and stringing them together like the sound of someone scanning the radio dial for something interesting... holy shit! I listened to this record 3 times today (along with the Rodan LP) and can still find very few faults - every time I'm about to acuse them of doing nothing more than ripping someone off, they shift the song ever so slightly to make it their own while retaining some of the influence. Simple command - buy this now if you have any understanding of pre-1977 music in any way... or just listen and learn. **1/2 (Not to say that Vampire On Titus is bad in any way, but Propeller just fucking rocks my world... now if only "If We Wait" were pressed as something other than a 1000 copy split single on Anyway - I've got a copy and will wear it out soon...) Oh well, enough for now... maybe I'll find time to review some legitimately NEW records for next time... :) Sean Murphy grumpy@access.digex.net ------------------------------ From: cory.gowan@access-info.com Mr. T Experience, Bratmobile, Rancid, Crackerbash The Mr. T Experience, Bratmobile, Rancid, Crackerbash "Our Bodies, Ourselves"- Mr. T Experience's third full length L.P., and they still haven't changed their style. The vocals are the same, the lyrics contain the same ideas, and the dominating drum sounds comes through like it always have. Quite frankly, it's wonderful. The 16-song set has a wider variety of the pop-punk they are known for, complete with the witty lyrics by Dr. Frank. Songs about girls and love, to a song about a girl who swallows everything. I was impressed with the way this band seems to crank out good songs, one after another, to make you very bouncy and quite happy. (Lookout! Records, PO Box 11374, Berkeley, CA 94701, $9) "The Real Janelle"- The new E.P. by Bratombile, these three girls who live nowhere near each other, REALLY impressed me. I had been entertained by their L.P. "Pottymouth," but "The Real Janelle" showed me that the girls have talent beyond screaming. These six songs take a little while to get used to, but once you have heard them twice, they stick in your head and you will put it on repeat for hours. The guitar really comes out in these new recordings, and are very eminent throughout the whole recording. (K.R.S. 120 N State St. #418, Olympia, WA 98507) "Tin Toy"- This E.P. by Crackerbash may be one of those recordings that could be ranked as a 'get this or you won't live very long' recording. I bought it without ever hearing them at all, completely based on recommendations by other musicians who told me I couldn't live without it. They were right. Seven songs that keep you interested until the end, in a sort-of Jawbreaker style with meaningful lyrics. "Orion" would probably be classified as their 'signature song' if you had to pick one. But I can definitely say this recording is worth getting right away. (Empty Records, PO Box 12034, Seattle, WA 98102) "Radio, Radio, Radio"- Simply the best by Rancid. Their second E.P. after one L.P., and the music has gotten better (and cleaner) everytime. Lint's vocals (former Operation Ivy/Downfall) have gotten much better over the palette of bands he has worked with, and after aquiring new guitarist Lars a year ago, it seems to me that this band knows how to work together to produce uncomparable music. (Fat Records, PO Box 460144, San Francisco, CA 94146) "You're not punk, and I'm telling everyone..."- Jawbreaker *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: uhtrd <DLM94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> random leakings of small furry politicians under carpets ugh. hello, it's me again, and i hope you are all doing well and enjoying yourselves. i can't think of any nifty quotes, but i really like the ones on i-l.....definitely keen. [aw, gee...blush -az] anyway, i just saw the dambuilders again last night (5/11) at babyhead. once again, well worth it and a fantastic time; if they didn't play them all, they played almost all of encendedor (the new one) and did one of my personal faves, louisiana. it was the drummer's b-day, too. i think his name is dave. anyway, they're great people and put on an amazing show, and i believe they'll be at the middle east on the 27th, so check 'em out live if you can. thanks for the versus and 3Ds reviews, everyfolk. i think that one of the coolest things about this list is the fact that we can talk about bands and shows like this that almost nobody else has heard of (at least on my campus) and get input on how things are going from all over the country and world. (it was neat to read about monsterland in wherever they were; they're from danbury ct, a good scene "city" in my lil' old state.) well, i checked out those cds i didn't know much about from that old top 10, but forgot to write down label stuff and details. o well, here goes...jenny anykind is kind of psychedelic low, heavy, guitar rock the label or the album is 'etc.' sammy sounds EXACTLY like pavement, i swear, i thought they were for a minute. it's not bad, but if you're easily offended by that type of thing, you might want to avoid it. then again, if you think that every band in the world should sound like pavement, well then, pick up that sammy cd and spin some tunes. oh lameness. i don't remember the other. and i didn't get around to the wordcore (sue p. fox's new one on kill rock stars + a couple of oldies) thing yet either. i'm really looking forward to the new godhead silo which, i believe, is coming out soon. speaking of krs and conveniently crossing over to pop narcotic's comp.(genius! pure genius!), is anyone out there aware of what ruby falls is up to? do they have anything coming out or already available? significantly new tapes i'd buy if i had the money...heavens to betsy/calculated/krs...the new polvo on merge (!!!)...david murry/saxmen/red baron...and of course, everything possible by milli vanilli. take care, and much love. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox dann medin/dlm94001@uconnnvm.uconn.edu/bad joke of the week; what has 6 arms, 6 legs, and two heads? xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxo ------------------------------ From: James Nash <CCX020@raven.coventry.ac.uk> New Pram. New Sleeper. YOU MUST BUY THIS NOW! dept. Pram - Meshes EP (Too Pure) Pram continue their ascent to god-like status with 2 new tracks and a re-working of an old song; if next month's LP is as good as this EP, someone up there likes us. 'Chrysalis' combines an aching cello with playground xylophone, what could well be an alien flute, and Rosie's ethereally damaged vocals, to produce unutterable beauty. You won't hear much this year that can beat it for warped genius. The lyrics to 'Life in the Clouds' beg that "you'll put aside your fears of flying/ and dance with me in the stars". Who knows the number for Jazz Folk Hippies airline? :) In each song, the drums set up a stilted but minimal rhythm that hypnotises and enhances the weirdness. Add that to the pained horns on 'Legendary Band of Venus' (aka 'Loredo Venus') and you have 7 more minutes of freeform joy. My theory as to how and why Pram chose their name is that it rhymes with Can. Yes, that good! AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE, PICK THIS UP dept. Sleeper - Delicious (Indolent) Wave goodbye to your femidoms and say hello to your libido, this is sexy, raunchy, lust-fuelled pop. With an attitude. 'Bedside Manners' is an absolute delight. It's a pop song about the sex life of the singer's parents! "Pushing down his ivory trousers, gets on top, 1 2 3 4... there you are." 'Lady Love Your Countryside' and 'Delicious' are twisted come-ons to future bedroom partners. "I want to see you boxing naked to the death" & "Let's go to bed until we're sore." Hot stuff. And for dessert: "He wished he'd been a great man/too fat from the ice cream van." All this would be slightly boring if it wasn't for the storm of pop Sleeper provide; Blondie meets the Undertones is a fair description. My one complaint is that they never pull off the adrenalin-hit of the chorus with any imagination or stamina. Still, that will come. Oo-er, missus. For those about to fuck. THE ONLY DECENT GIG I'VE BEEN TO LATELY & SOMEONE ELSE REVEIWED IT ALREADY dept. Huggy Bear/Prolapse/Marmite Sisters @ Leicester Princess Charlotte (about two weeks ago) Check out Julian Lawton's review an issue or two back and it's a close description of what I thought. The Huggies were excellent and, yes, they turn me off on record too. Prolapse were terrible that night. It had to be said! The EP is worth getting though. Marmite Sisters reminded me of early That Petrol Emotion. Julian, we must stop not meeting like this. WHO LET THIS IDIOT IN? dept. Been AWOL for a bit, mind on other matters. Still is really, so forgive my insanity. New Orb album 'The Little Album' (what I've heard) rules. Never liked them before. Do now. I'm trying to find out more about a band called Uzeda from Italy. I'm told they have a single out on AV Arts and they may have played the Camden Falcon in London last Saturday. Anyone in the know? New Rodan and AC Acoustics ('Able Treasury' on Indolent) mini-LPs are highly recommended. Reviews forthcoming if I can get my head around them. And remember, Cosmonauts Hail Satan! CRAP .SIG dept. --James Nash <ccx020@cov.ac.uk> You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead, mate. ------------------------------ From: Miles Egan <cullen@scripps.edu> Review emendations and comments I couldn't resist the urge to toss in my own opinions of some of the music reviewed in the last issue. First, Espontaneo is not Crash Worship's only full-length CD. They have another, Asesinos, on an English label (whose name I forget) that collects most of the earlier, cassette-only This and some 12" tracks. This disk makes me much happier than Espontaneo, which emphasizes the loutish bellowing of their singers/provocateurs over their stunningly precise kinetic drumming. A new studio album is in the works. A lot of CW's stuff really only works live, unfortunately, so you should do whatever is necessary to see them play. More than just another show. Re: Skullflower. They have many full-length releases. I haven't heard them all, but most of them perch precariously on the border between slow, dark, churning guitar atmospherics and tedious, endless wanky noodling. Xaman, and earlier album, is mostly good, but I haven't heard their most recent, _Obsidian Shaking Codex_. Avoid _IIIrd Gatekeeper_. I dunno if any of CW's members ever played D&D, but I'm almost certain that Skullflower's did. Re: Orbital's Diversions. Not exactly a synthesis of the Peel Sessions EP and the Lush single. The gorgeous Attached from the Peel Sessions is replaced with the (to my ears at least) rather dull _Imapct USA_. I also don't care much for the Lush remixes, except perhaps CJ Bolland's. Underworld's mix, in particular is disappointing. It begins beautifully, but gradually enters Miami Vice soundtrack territory, finally sinking under the weight of a nauseating guitar/sax shit fusion. Personally, I think the Peel Sessions ep is a better deal. The exclusion of Attached smells like a marketing department's strategy to force fanatics to buy everything. Anyone who hasn't heard their last full album (the brown one) is missing out. ------------------------------ From: "Theodore A. Khoury" <khoury@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> Caspar Brotzmann, Skullflower REVIEWS Both of these have been out for a while, but I've had problems finding them; the Caspar CD set me back $20 too. CASPAR BROTZMANN MASSAKER- "Black Axis" This is the follow-up to his first album "The Tribe," and it leans more towards his flashier side than the more sparse-sounding "Der Abend. . " or "Koksofen." There's a big difference between his early stuff like this and his two more recent releases. Caspar, son of Peter, is the latest indie guitar craze. All of his albums are recorded live in the studio and are mostly first takes, and each album is a flawless deconstruction of precision, wank, and melody. His voice isn't as Swans/Cave-like as on his new stuff; he actually sings, and there's a significant backwash of funk left in the background of many of the songs. Half the songs are in German, half in English, half instrumental. Anyone who is familliar with his stuff knows that the early material is hard to find, and you can't go wrong with anything by him. If you can find this buy it. *** SKULLFLOWER-IIIrd Gatekeeper (hEADdirt recordings) I reviewed the 'Ponyland' 7" last list, and I haven't been able to peel it off my turntable since--until I broke down paid an import price for the album. These guys are heavy as shit and execute it unlike any other band described this way (Monster Magnet, Liquorball, Hammerhead). They're mostly instrumental, with occasional melody-shrieks from the drummer. The guitar is equal parts Brotzmann and Spaceman 3. Songs are long and really intense, and yes, evil. The old bassist is on this one and goes from tinkering pop loops to sabbath drone. Might have taken some guitar lessons from Mick Harris or K.K. Null; they could also be compared to Zeni Geva, if I wanted to pigeonhole them. But they do a lot of variety, yet still stay heavy as balls on each tune, and the sound is pretty new. Take. *** theodore ------------------------------ From: <jac15@po.cwru.edu> Pavement, 3Ds in Cleveland OH Pavement & 3Ds, Peabody's Downunder, Cleveland, OH 12 May 1994 Well, first let me get a couple things off my chest about how this show was set up that kinda pissed me off. First off, tickets were supposed to be $11 advance, $13 day of show. Fine--a little expensive, but hey, Pavement are the "next big thing," no? Well the thing is, tickets were ONLY available through Ticketmaster...NOT at the club, NOT at the various record stores that just have tickets there, but ONLY thru Ticketmaster, where you have to pay an extra $2.25 PER TICKET service charge! That means that tickets were really $13.25, right? Yes, unless you happen to be under 21 (I'm not, but this still pisses me off in principle), in which case you had to pay ANOTHER $2.00 AT THE DOOR, bringing your total ticket price to $15.25! Plus, I noticed that the sign at the door when we got there had raised d.o.s. prices to $14.00. The bar obviously wants to make money with beer sales, but to my mind, I already paid for someone's beer with the extra service charge I had to pay for the tickets. This is a system that truly sucks. Anyway. Lots of people dying to see Pavement! We got there shortly after the first band was supposed to start, and there was still a huge long line out the door. We thought the doors were closed still because the line was not moving, but it turns out the stupid door people were taking about 5 minutes with each person coming in, having to check ids, take extra money, put on wrist bands (!sheesh!), etc so that by the time we were actually inside the club, we had missed the first opening band, the Ass Ponies from Cincinnati. No big loss, probably (if anyone knows different, set me straight). The place was totally packed and next to airless, despite the fact that they had numerous large electric fans sitting around not turned on. At least this club has a back porch where you can go outside for a breath of air now and again. Finally the 3Ds from New Zealand came on, a real rag-tag looking bunch, but seeming to be already having fun. They dedicated their whole set to Tom Herman (or Tom "Heearman" in NewZealandese), of Pere Ubu, for some reason (probably because they were in Cleveland, I guess)...I'm sure it was a real obscure dedication for most of the kids there. Anyway, they started playing, and almost from the git-go, they had me smiling and bobbing my head & tapping my toe with their great mix of pop-noise-rock, great guitar sound, cool melodies & good beats... They were thoroughly enjoyable, even though I had never heard more than one of their songs on the radio. About halfway through their set I came to the conclusion that I was probably going to end up liking them better than Pavement that night, which....well I don't want to spoil the end of this review! Anyway, yeah, they were great! Lots of interesting odd-sounding guitar chords, some nice bits of drone etc, all without sounding too Sonic Youthy, or sounding too much like anything but themselves really. And the people in the band (including the female bass player--see some of my previous reviews) all seemed real nice and natural and charming really. Unfortunately most of the audience were steadfastly NOT there to see music they have not seen on MTV or heard on the local commercial "alternative" music station, and stood and yelled at them. I really don't understand that mentality. They just don't realize. Poor young kids these days sigh no conception of musical history. Go see the 3Ds if they come to your town, ok? Anyway. Yeah, Pavement. The more I listen to Crooked Rain X2, the more I don't like it. I like some of the stuff on it, but something about it just bugs me, I can't figure out what. Maybe it's the mix or something, I dunno. I like all their other stuff a lot though. Anyway, so they came out and played some new things, some things on CRCR that the crowd LOVED, some older stuff that was ok, like a slow version of Box Elder, Debris Slide, Summer Babe, etc. Range Life with the new lines: "Out on tour with the Gin Blossoms/They've got brains as big as opossums" which made me laugh. Overall though, man, they were just really mellow, they played all these laid-back slow songs, and the exciting songs were not really exciting...they seemed REALLY tired. It's real near the end of their tour, so that's probably why. The highlight of the show was when a bouncer took some poor kid's Fuji disposable camera from him, and Mark Ibold threw his bass down and yelled at the bouncer to give the kid his camera back, and the whole band nearly got into fisticuffs with the bouncer over it and stopped playing for about 10 minutes while the audience yelled "Give his camera back!"...Finally they got it back and Steve Malkmus took a picture of the kid from the stage and gave it back to him. Yay. Indie rock yeah. Hit the Plane down was way too short. Two States was dull. Cut Your Hair was ok. Actually, all of the stuff they played from CRCR sounded better live than it does on the record, which made me feel a little better. The show had its moments while it lasted, but overall it was unsatisfying. They did a pretty cool new song in their encore, "Fight This Generation," that really built well, had pretty cool dynamics, and got actually pretty exciting toward the end, but it was not enough to save the show. I enjoyed it at the time, but the more I think about it, the more I wish that they would have either played longer, or more excitingly, or SOMETHING. Or let the 3Ds come back on and play some more! So you see, my premonition was right. I hope the Pavement boys get a good rest before they have to go play again. EPILOGUE: I had wanted to buy a copy of the 3Ds 7" Hey Seuss after they played, but I thought if I got it before Pavement played, someone might knock me over or something and make me break it, so I waited til after Pavement played and went to get it...and they were all sold out!!! Bummer. But I guess it's a good sign for them... and PS : A request: Does anyone know an address I could write to to get ahold of one of those cool blue lightning bold Versus t-shirts?? Every time I think about it I wish I had bought one when I saw them play here a while back. Thanks! JC ------------------------------ From: folta@netcom.com (Steve Folta) ANNOUNCE: Road Cone catalog by WWW/FTP/email I've made the Road Cone catalog available over the net. Road Cone is a label in Portland with releases by Bugskull, Loren Mazzacane, Junket, Shoeface, etc. Also, the catalog of my own Tube Alloy label (which includes the Speed Bumps cassette reviewed in the last Indie-List) is now in HTML format for you Web/Mosaic users. Here's how to get this stuff: WWW: file://ftp.netcom.com/pub/folta/RoCo.Catalog.html file://ftp.netcom.com/pub/folta/TuA.Catalog.html FTP: Anonymous FTP to "ftp.netcom.com", cd to "pub/folta", and get the files called "RoCo.Catalog.txt" and/or "TuA.Catalog". email: Email me at "folta@netcom.com". ------------------------------ From: $JFENNEL@LWCVM1.LWC.EDU ANNOUNCE: indie band booking possibilities i'm in charge of getting bands to play at my school. send any indie recordings and i'll see if i can hook you up next year! everyone wants to come to farmville, virginia; it's a quaint town, and of course we do pay bands when they play here. send tapes, records, whatever to: jennie fennell 200 laurel path road yorktown, va 23692 mooo ------------------------------ From: Eliot Shepard <eliot@barclay.harvard.edu> ANNOUNCE: Drive Like Jehu tour dates ************************************************************ DRIVE LIKE JEHU Yank Crime Tour ************************************************************ Opening on all shows: Tanner Opening June 8 - 18: Custom Floor Opening June 20 - July 1: Doo Rag May f 27 Phoenix, AZ Mason Jar s 28 Tuscon, AZ Downtown performance Center su 29 Albuquerque, NM Dingo Bar t 31 Dallas, TX Galaxy Club Jun w 1 Austin, TX Emo's th 2 Houston, TX Harvey's Club Deluxe (w/ Superchunk) s 4 Atlanta, GA Somber Reptile su 5 Carborro, NC Cat's Cradle (w/ Coral) m 6 Richmond, VA Twisters (w/ Coral) t 7 Washington, DC Black Cat w 8 Philadelphia,PA Khyber Pass th 9 Hoboken, NJ Maxwell's f 10 New York, NY CBGB s 11 Boston, MA Middle East su 12 Montreal, QUE Woodstock m 13 Ottawa, ONT 5 Arlington t 14 Toronto, ONT The Rivoli w 15 Clevland/Columbus, OH th 16 Ann Arbor, MI Blind Pig f 17 Chicago, IL Lounge Ax s 18 Minneapolis, MN 7th Street Entry m 20 Boulder, CO Fox Theatre t 21 Salt Lake, UT Cinema Bar th 23 Portland, OR La Luna f 24 Seattle, WA MOE s 25 Bellingham, WA 3B Tavern m 27 San Francisco, CA Slim's w 29 Los Angeles, CA Whisky a Go-Go th 30 Costa Mesa, CA Our House Jul f 1 San Diego, CA Tim Maze show ======== Eliot Shepard eliot@asc.harvard.edu Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory ------------------------------ c/o "K. Lena Bennett" <keb@u.washington.edu> ANNOUNCE: Combustible Edison Tour Dates (fwd) Hey Swinger! The Combustible Edison Touring Ensemble will be appearing in your town soon - wear a tie! When Where At 5/16 Toronto, ONT El Mocambo 5/17 Toronto, ONT Lee's Place (w/Superchunk & 3Ds) 5/18 Montreal, QUE Woodstock 5/20 New York, NY Mercury Cafe 5/21 Washington, DC 9:30 Club 5/22 Richmond, VA Grace St. Cinema (w/Coctails) 5/24 Columbus, OH Stache's 5/25 Cincinnati, OH Sudsy Malone 5/26 Detroit, MI Burns Room @ St. Andrews 5/27 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle 5/28 Madison, WI Club DeWash 5/29 Minneapolis, MN Uptown Lounge 6/1 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe 6/2 Vancouver, BC Starfish Room 6/3 Seattle, WA (TBA) 6/4 Portland, OR (TBA) 6/6 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall 6/8 Las Vegas, NV Huntridge Theater 6/10 San Diego, CA Casbah 6/11 Highland Park, CA Fuzzyland 6/12 Los Angeles, CA Jack's Sugarshack 6/13-6/20 Several Southern Stops (TBA) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Aaron Oppenheimer afo@wal.hp.com Medical Products Group Hewlett Packard Co. 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