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      Indie List Digest!

        June 16, 1994

     Volume 3   Number 38


Blaise Pascal and Pavement tour diary, the conclusion
Tree, Clutch, and Sam Black Church
Tsunami, Day In The Park compilation
Blood Oranges, Go To Blazes, Wade
Crying Out Louds, Cynics; Daddy Longhead, Steel Pole Bathtub
ANNOUNCE: Envelope Tour Dates
ANNOUNCE: Karate Tour Dates
ANNOUNCE: Schwa va Name Change

This issue is out a day early, as az and I have some obligations 
that take us away for a couple days.  But it's a fact-packed issue, 
including a little taste of the "concert surplus" that the NYT has 
been talking about (albeit on a human scale).  We finish Marcel's 
tour diary (send compliments and coffee beans to him, eh?).

Look for the next issue of IL on Tuesday.

On a personal note, az and I will be in Olympia for that yoyofest.  
If anyone has interests in hooking up, or lodging leads, let us know!



From: (Marcel Feldmar)
Blaise Pascal and Pavement tour diary, the conclusion

                        SASKATOON LOUIS' SAT 30 1994

Tonight it's just us & Pavement.  We go on at 10:45- i was kinda 
hopin to play w/ this band, Grand Theft Canoe, but they hop on the 
bill in Winnipeg.  Never heard them, but the name is great.

9pm & the place is still pretty empty.  yer typical collegiate 
semi-hip crowd.  Hope it packs up a bit...  wanna end this tour w/ a 
blast...  evidently we get free beer all nite, so i guess the crowd is 
secondary now.

okay, i'm psyched.  the crowd is lame, but it's a crowd.  Bob & Dave 
are sitting up against the wall at the back of the pit, everyone else 
is sitting at their tables....  it's like the alternative lounge, 
y'know? Ah well....  we played, and we sounded fine, but it was one of 
those nights where the audience just sat and sucked up all the energy.  
i remember hearing a couple of catcalls and hisses at the beginning, 
but they were all cheers and whistles at the end, so i guess we kinda 
won the crowd over.....  sorta.  Pavement played, it all sounded good, 
everything went alright, need i mention the bouncing? They did a 
straighter set than Calgary....  pulled out all their hits and rocked 
them out, but nothing too strange or 'out there,' there was just this 
aura of lameness emanating from the floor...  all the kids wandering 
dazed preferring to pull disco moves against pumped beats.  fun.
anyhowz, after the show, packing up & all...  we said our farewells to 
those wonderful Pavement folk, i managed to score a couple of t-shirts 
& well put compliments from both Steves (Malkmus & West) & we walked 
out of the Lounge, into the next buildin where we found the Grad TV 
Room...  the place we were offered to crash in fer the nite.  We all 
claimed our own vinyl couches, watched late nite movies on a large 
screen TV, & all passed out before we found out who the killer was.

The next mornin, we drop Scott off at the bus station, he's heading on 
to Winnipeg, the lucky bastard.  We're tired, worn out, feeling colds 
coming on....  & kinda wishing this trip wasn't over....  so we drive 
home, Saskatoon to Vancouver.....  in about nineteen hours.  Sleep.  
It's over.........  for now.

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From: James Nash <>
NoMeansNo/Tsunami/Eggs/Rodan Live

Two Leicester gigs...

Tsunami/Eggs/Rodan @ Leicester Princess Charlotte, 26 May 1994

A very promising lineup provided a very enjoyable night.  Rodan were 
excellent.  Really heavily intense; they played for an hour and were 
overpowering.  I found myself thinking "oh shut up!" and "way cool!" 
in alternating patterns.  They, like 96.3% of the American 
underground, have been listening to far too much Slint.  Which can 
only be a good thing.

With Rodan over-running, Eggs didn't have long to impress and their 
set sort of drifted by.  Nice on the ears (more trumpets in music, 
indie people, please) and fun, but lacking something.  I would like to 
see them again.

Tsunami played well and everything, but they bored me stiff.

Overall a nice evening.

NoMeansNo/Tsunami @ Leicester University, 4 June 1994

Did the guest list thang for the first time in a while so we made sure 
we turned up late; got to do these things properly.  This meant we 
missed Rodan.  Damn! Hoisted by our own petard.

Tsunami had just started and were a whole lot better than the previous 
week.  Certainly, the largeness of the venue seemed to suit them, and 
there were more places you could escape to if you got bored, which is 
the case at times with Tsunami's thrashy sound.  The lead singer wore 
her Rodan pants and everyone was happilly grooving along.  'Be Like 
That' was the highlight.  I still won't buy the new album, but 
devotees should love it.

NoMeansNo were brilliance encapsulated.  I'd had to wait five years to 
see them again, and it was worth it for every adrenalin-pumped minute.  
And the bruises.  'Everyday I Start to Ooze', 'Oh No! Bruno!' (my 
friend Bruno particularly enjoyed that one), 'Kill Everyone Now!' and 
the final encore '2 Lips...' - pure magic.  And there were two 

One chill-out pint, lots of "omigawd they were amazing" dribble chat, 
one party and one heavy 'session' later, the light was creeping 
through the curtains and...  yeah, it was one of THOSE nights.  :) 
Only it's 2 days later now and I just wish the hangover would go away.  
HELP MEEEeeeeee!

--James Nash <>
You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead, mate.


Tree, Clutch, and Sam Black Church

On Sunday, June 5, at Venus de Milo in Boston, three masters of 
hardcore music poured forth an aural performance that outdid any show 
prior it.  This is mostly a Clutch review though, since they are the 
touring band in the bunch (Tree and SBC are locals to Boston) and 
therefore much harder to find in Boston.  Also, since they're touring, 
they're the most likely of the three that Indie-List readers across 
the country will find.

Venus de Milo is a pretty cool club; it has a chill-out area where you 
can rest, as well as about four bars and a large main area facing the 
stage.  The bouncers were pretty cool, they allowed stage diving as 
long as you dove off as soon as you got on and you didn't touch the 

Tree started off with a 45-minute set.  I didn't pay too much 
attention since I'm not a big Tree fan, but they display influence Sam 
Black Church in the way they perform.

Clutch, one of my all-time favorite bands, also played for 45 minutes.  
They were incredible, though I think the vocals were mixed too low.  
They played a variety of their music, from "Passive Restraints" and 
"Impetus" to songs off the LP (Transnational Speedway League) like 
"Shogun named Marcus" and some new stuff, including a song called 
"Galaxy 4" or something (I missed the name) which was almost entirely 
no guitar but nonstop bass playing.  They finished off the set with 
one of their coolest and easily moshed-to songs, "Binge and Purge" 
(Metallica seems to like this song enough to rip it off for the name 
of their new album), which starts off slow and at the end breaks into 
a fury of vocals and harmonic noise with a high dose of anger and 
profanity.  That's enough to make everyone in the club start moving.

During Clutch I was right up in front with Neil Fallon, vocalist, 
spitting in my face and some big asshole next to me shoving me all the 
time.  You had to watch your head for careless crowd-surfers; one of 
them landed on my head and threw my neck backwards, which resulted in 
him getting a nicely aimed kidney punch.  But I was able to see the 
band clearly.  During slow songs, Clutch's drummer would lay on the 
drums and seem to sleep, and the bassist played facing the rear wall 
so I was unable to see what or how he played :-( but oh well.

The only disappointing thing about the band was that they didn't play 
a song called "Piledriver." It's not on any of their releases that 
I've ever seen, but my friend has an Earache sampler with this song on 
it and it one kickass song.  If I get a chance to talk with the band 
again, I'll bring this up.  I kicked myself for forgetting to ask 
about this when I met the vocalist (Fallon).

Sam Black Church delivered its usual high-energy intensity show; they 
are absolutely one of the greatest live bands you can ever see, and if 
you have the opportunity (they are ALWAYS playing in Boston), see 
them.  Toward the end there were so many stage divers that there were 
two onstage at all times (if not for longer than two seconds).  After 
they had started packing up at the end, the audience cried for more, 
so they mercifully granted one more song -- definitely a very 
audience-aware band.

It was great being able to see Clutch, and I would recommend them to 
anyone...  Their mockery of redneck/"American" culture is really cool, 
and you can feel it in their music.  Next time they come to Boston, 
you can bet your bollocks I'll be there.


From: Doug Watson <>
Tsunami, Day In The Park

     Tsunami _The Heart's Tremolo_ (Simple Machines)
In 1993, Tsunami/Simple Machines made significant contributions to the 
indie scene, including the Working Holiday Singles Series, the _Deep 
End_ full-lengther, a coupla singles of their own, and a failed yet 
honorable attempt to sell the DIY aesthetic at Lollapalooza.  So I 
guess that it's understandable that they'd be tired in 1994 - 
understandable, but still disappointing.  _The Heart's Tremolo_, 
despite the typical Simple Machines packaging quality (a limited 
edition picture disc), is filled with the sound of a weary band.  The 
pacing is much slower than _Deep End_, but many of the songs suffer 
from lack of atmosphere, hook and melody and, ultimately, seem way too 
long.  To their credit, the lyrics are excellent ("she's no side 
thought pause like a comma she's a period go on and try and take your 
amateur changes on her dreary id they'd moved mountains in minutes 
later they regretted it," from "Fits and Starts") and Jenny's voice 
(which has the capacity to weaken me at the knees) is tremendous.  But 
these obvious strengths are buried under a muddy, unsympathetic 
production and the whole effort comes off as plodding.  **1/2
     Various Artists _A Day In The Park_ (The Now Sound)
Here we have one of two ideal compilations released just in time for 
the lazy kid's summer mix tape.  (The other, PopNarc's double-10", 
hasn't made the trip to my local shop yet, dammit.) Sixteen songs (or 
eight split-singles, for the lp-challenged) for an easy $10 - a true 
bargain for the thrift shoppers.  The Dambuilders kick off with an 
instrumental "recorded in 1983" (??) that fortunately doesn't suffer 
from current Dambuilders overproduction.  Archers of Loaf follow with 
some lovely two-chord aggrospew, then Versus, with a four-chord jangle 
thing that's pretty but does nothing and goes nowhere - kind of like 
some of my summer romances, actually...  Spatula play with their 
tunings and build a good dynamic as we listen, Unwound get edgy with 
an inverted bass line, and the Grifters, ah, having discovered the 
song structure, show themselves as better craftsmen than most anyone 
else.  Butterglory do Pavement redux (yawn), and Crayon get that 
Olympia sound (it's good but it's kinda losing my interest these 
days).  Side two has Nothing Painted Blue with a killer raveup and a 
most memorable riff - is this previously unreleased, and if so why? - 
followed by Small 23 and a lo-fi anthem named after the key in which 
it's written (it ain't short for Ebenezer, kids), then back to the 
Inland Empire with Diskoti-Q and two kicking minutes of happy 
complaining, Blaise Pascal (Canadian kids, lots of atmosphere and a 
hidden melody), Spent (more spunky guitars and harmonies, but sounds a 
bit too familiar), Portastic aka Supermac doin' that 
Lou-Barlow-solo-thing in his bedroom (no, not masturbating, you 
pervies) - actually, this one becomes surprisingly endearing over 
repeated listenings - then Further (another Inland band, I think) 
who give us a beautiful piece of work on a one-tracker - funny how 
comforting the sound of a portable recording itself can be - and 
finally, Refrigerator, the Shrimper house band, who start tentatively, 
explode and resolve with quiet feedback, fading like a Labour Day 
weekend bonfire - God, I love these guys.
     Overall, a very satisfying piece of wax.****



From: "Harris, Terry J." <>
Blood Oranges (and Go To Blazes and Wade)

Lots to see and hear in the Balt-Wash metroplex last night (Weds.  
June 8th).  Slant 6 at Baltimore's charming Memory Lane, Tindersticks 
and Tree Fort Angst at DC's 9:30, Mecca Normal at DC's Black Cat, and 
Jennifers at Baltimore's Chambers.  However, once again displaying a 
distinct weakness for rootsy mainly-guitar bands, my choice was the 
show at DC's 15 minutes with the Blood Oranges, Go To Blazes and Wade.

Wade opened and was perhaps slightly mismatched with the other two 
bands.  I knew nothing about them in advance, but they said they were 
from San Francisco, and now you know as much as me.  I thought they 
sounded maybe a bit like the Bedlam Rovers (mentioned here recently) 
but indie-noisier and less overtly melodic.  Vocals, alternating 
between a she-bassist and a she-violinist, were backed by lots of 
noisy he-guitar and quite-solid he-drums.  The violinist's clear voice 
and a not-that-vague resemblance reminded me of Mekon Sally Timms.  I 
liked them a lot and I probably would have bought a CD, but they (the 
band) had disappeared by the end of the night.

Go To Blazes followed with their rootsy guitar band thing that I like 
so much.  I've seen 'em probably a half-dozen times, usually with 
another band I wanted to see more.  But they continue to get tighter 
and tougher and are almost a main-event attraction for me now.  Their 
bar band sound last night leaned more toward prime mid-'80's Del Lords 
and/or Jason and the Scorchers than anything else.  But that may have 
been due in part to enthusiastic fans and friends of the band adding 
shots of whiskey to the band's mix.  They say they'll have an album 
out in August on East Side Digital.

The Blood Oranges followed with a long and fine set of twangy sad 
songs, mostly off their new album, the Crying Tree, (also on ESD, 
produced by ex-Del Lord Eric Ambel).  Played with much charm and good 
humor ("Hi, we're Frente"), the songs sound better live than on their 
recordings.  Although I've seen the group twice before, this was the 
first time I'd seen 'em with their regular she-singer/bassist Cheri 
Knight.  For a major-label comparison, I think her clear voice sounds 
maybe midway between a countrified Natalie Merchant without the 
quirkiness and a not-nearly-so-overwrought Maria McKee.

Knight and mandolinist Jim Ryan split songwriting and singing duties 
on the record, with Mark Spencer (also a part-timer with Freedy 
Johnston) helping out occaisionally.  However, live, Spencer and his 
guitar are much more central.  Either way, the songs sound perhaps 
like the Long Ryders without so much edge, or maybe like the Jayhawks 
with more twang.  I like their previous records (a full album and an 
EP) probably a little better than the recent one, but if one likes 
this kind of stuff, one probably should have all three.  Rootsy but 
with lotsa fast-pickin' rather than loud-strumming.  Whatever.  I 
stayed very late into the night.

(East Side Digital, which also put out the recent and decent album by 
the similarly-pigeonholed Bottlerockets, can be reached at 530 North 
Third Street, Minneapolis, MN 55401.)


From: (Mark Bunster)
new fudge disc, man!

Fudge--Southside Speedway--Caroline Records

If you weren't sure whether production quality was important to how an 
album sounds, listen to Fudge's debut LP, _The Ferocious Sound of the 
Precise Rhythmn of Laziness_ (or something like that; I can't remember 
the name of the new Sonic Youth album either) and then compare it to 
their new one.  Although there is definitely some musical growth in 
the new songs, Dambuilders guitarist Eric Masanunga's smooth 
knob-twiddling is the most pronounced reason behind the improvement 
since Fudge's last effort.

Rather than talk negatively about that album (all drums and vocals and 
none of the fuzzy guitar interplay), let's praise Caesar by trumpeting 
the positive about Speedway. Everything fits this time--David Jones 
and Tony Ammendolia trade licks to full effect, switching ably between 
the Dino Jr.  -- MBValentine wash from the past and the sparer, less 
open-ended strokes that suggest a stronger "punk" root, reminiscent of 
Superchunk on the first cut "Tree Fort Stash," and even a smudge of 
Fugazi(!) on "Dart GT" and the thunderous "Shirts and Skins."

Much of the harder edge comes from a quantum leap in vocal quality 
from Jones: previous efforts had him trying to sing harmonies with 
Ammendolia's sweeter, higher tones, but on Speedway he becomes Raspy 
Guy, belting out lyrics with self-assured power.

Not all of the lush pop textures are gone; "It's Morning Already" 
evokes a little of the New Zealand sound, complete with white-noise 
electronics and smooth wash guitar similar to that of recent Jean Paul 
Sartre Experience.  Another siginificant step in Fudge's development 
is drummer Mike Savage's talents, honed on this disc into a series of 
tightly rolled fills alternated with sharp dynamics that ably drive 
the band's starts and stops.  Too bad, because Savage left the band 
during recording to find love in Boston.

Unfortunately, there is still the presence of filler.  The title track 
is a burst of Metal Machine Music revisited that begs skipping after 
one listen, and "Car Stereo Blast Off" is a not-so-veiled attack on 
somebody who evidently is not their best friend on the Richmond scene.  
That still leaves nine worthwhile ditties, though, and you end up 
forgiving them when you hear the goofy ripoff of the Rolling Stones' 
"Heartbreaker" backing vocals in the aformentioned "Shirts and Skins" 
(which incidentally features the best of bassist Steve Venable, whom I 
haven't mentioned yet, and whose generally stellar work is somewhat 
muted this time around).  Worth picking up if you were expecting great 
things before the debut album, and wrote them off after it.  Hell, 
worth picking up if you don't know diddly about them.
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Richmond, VA 23284                |Adam Smith's invisible hand            |has got you by the throat...  
(804) 828-8813                    |                 Trotsky Icepick


From: Chris Khoury <>
Cynics Show Review

Cynics w/ Crying Out Louds @ EMO'S Alternative Lounging
Tuesday, June 7th

Crying Out Louds are a local Austin band, from what I understand, and 
play a pretty generic style of garage rock.  They had a lot of energy 
and were friendly guys, also pretty tight, but there was a little too 
much hardcore seeping into their songs, and i wasn't really into it.

Cynics hit the stage soon after, and put on a really, really great 
show.  They rarely took a break between songs, playing, at least 15 
songs if I remember correctly.  They played stuff off their first 
album, including "BLue Train Station".  Along with other older ones 
like "Close to You."

[why do birds fall down from the sky...every time they walk by?-az]

If you've never heard the Cynics before, they're a great garage band 
with a real smooth sound.  They've been around, from what I know, at 
least since 1985 and have put out at least 6-7 LPs, and a slew of 
singles.  They are a great band to see live, and the singer (Michael? 
I think) has a great voice and stage presence.  If they come your way, 

Daddy Longhead, Steel Pole Bathtub, Killdozer

@ EMO'S Alternative Lounging Friday June 11?

Daddy Loungehead came on first, boasting a member from the Butthole 
Surfers, from what I understand.  Going by this, I expected something 
a little bit more demented and was kinda let down to find they were a 
run-of-the-mill heavy pop band with real flashy guitar.  To their 
credit, the show got gradually better as it went on..

Steel Pole came on next and put on a GREAT show.  I've only listened 
to a few of their songs before, so I didn't really know what to 
expect.  Both the bassist and guitarist sing.  The guitarist has a 
really great howl that resembles Rick from Drive Like Jehu sometimes.  
The bassist has a really great nasally, high-pitched voice that added 
a lot to their show.  Throughout the songs and in between they had 
some really cool samples going.  At first I didn't know they were 
samples, and I could hear screaming but no one was singing, so that 
kinda freaked me..THe drummer had a really sweet style of playing, 
whom my brother said resembled Mitch Mitchell a lot.  The whole band 
put on a really energetic set with the guitarist flying around the 
stage and the bassist bending around like a wave or something.  Really 
sweet..  check 'em out..

Killdozer was last.  They had two Soviet Union flags (I think) hanging 
up on their stage.  Started out their whole set with a cover of EMF's 
"Unbelievable".  Brother Ted warned me that singer has an awful 
annoying voice, but I still insisted on checking 'em out and seeing 
what they're all about.  Seems most of their lyrics were all 
anti-capitalist, which was the ONE good thing about their whole set.  
I left after about four songs, because 1) the singer/guitarist does 
have a really crappy annoying voice.  and: 2) their music was awful 
too.  Bad, slow rock with some power chords here and there.  I just 
didnt' like it at all.

Not to complain or anything, but the audience was filled with 
obnoxious alternashits who would switch from MTV Dance Party hip hop 
dancing at the slower, quiet parts of Steel Pole to Pantera moshing at 
the loud parts, flailing their arms and bodies all over the place..  
Emo's also raised their cover charge for minors to $7 instead of $5 to 
celebrate their second anniversary.

Rock on, -CHRIS..
: Chris Khoury			     :
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ANNOUNCE: Envelope Tour Dates

ENVELOPE --- upcoming blind dates

the NYC quartet will be supporting their brand new EP on invisible 
vinyl with the following shows...

7/1 - Empty Bottle, Chicago, IL (w/ Greenhorn, Yum-Yum, Twitch)
7/2 - 7th St. Entry, Minneapolis, MN (w/ Velocity Girl, Sunny Day Real 
7/3 - 7th St. Entry, Minneapolis, MN (w/ Velocity Girl, Sunny Day
Real Estate)
7/23 - Under Acme, NYC, NY (w/ Ass Ponys, Flophouse)

anyone with a restraining order (or a bed in Minneapolis) can 
contract us via



From: "dann steele, man of chainlink fences" <DLM94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
ANNOUNCE: Karate Tour dates

o.k. i lied before. but this is really the last submission, and not much of
one anyways... i'm really very super happy to emphatically present you, the
lovely international community, w/karate's summer tour dates. i totally
recommend your presence; i think you'd like them a lot. besides, they love you.

16- mobile,al @ the void
17- pensacola,fl @ sluggo's
18- new orleans,la @ abstract bookstore w/jermflux
19- fort worth,tx @ the mad hatter's
21- albquerque,nm  @ dingo's
22- farmington,nm
23- phoenix,az @ legend's
24- tucson,az @ downtown performance center w/dee flowers
25- san diego,ca @ dream street w/tree
26- thousand oaks,ca
30- portland,or @ the x-ray cafe
01- olympia,wa @  the capitol theater or the abc house w/lois
02- spokane,wa w/has been and coburg 5
04- minneapolis,mn @ 7th street entry
08- chicago,il matinee w/antioch arrow, trenchmouth, & capt'n jazz
08- chicago,il (21 plus, unfortunately) @ the empty bottle w/chune and hum
* just go see the matinee. even if you're over 21. trenchmouth rocks out live
09- st.louis,mo @ bastille's
10- normal,il @ tim's house
11- st.louis,mo @ cicero's
12- indianapolis,in @ sitcom
13- muncie,in @ the coc w/the grifters & the dambuilders (!!!!!!!!)
14- cincinnati?
15- dayton,oh (goto network records before show)
16- lexington,ky @ the rockledge
17- columbus,oh @ freakin' pizza (wow, what a cool name)
18- kalamazoo,mi ?
19- hamtramck,mi @ ground coffee house or tony's house
20- london,ontario @ call the office (is that a club?)
21- toronto,ontario w/watermark
22- lindsay,ont. w/sinkhole
23- ottowa,ont. w/sinkhole (i love sinkhole. that's all)
24- burlington, vt @ club 242 main

and there you have it.  check these lads out as they venture their 
first tour.  and by the way, we just got the new godhead silo, team 
dresch, and u.o.a.  from kill rock stars today.  which leads me to 
conclude that slim moon and the crew are god.  take care and have a 
great summer.  xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxox!


ANNOUNCE: Schwa change

Schwa va has has backed out of the race with the millions of other 
Schwas throughout the country and changed their name to Fashion 
Central.  The SpinArt 7" coming out this summer will be under Fashion 
Central as will any future projects.  They can now be reached at 
e-mail address

                                      Ryan Moore/Fashion Central Publicity


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