Indie-List_V3_N16 There's a dust cloud outside, And it's bigger than Texas... ############################ Indie List Digest March 6th, 1994 Volume 3, Number 16 ############################ Glenn Branca Concert Review Dick Dale Show Review exploder, crooked rain, misc jps experience/cinematic/sold gold hell cool music review time again great show - The Ex Felt Pilotes, other 7"s ADVERTISEMENTS: B.O.S. tour dates NEW FROM RADIOACTIVE RAT RECORDS Tube Alloy Recording ++++++++++++++++ Notes from the editor: 1. Thanks for all the responses to my DC-online question last week - nearly 120 letters, out of a readership of ~750... not too bad. :) The overwhelming majority was in favor of such a link (on-line catalogs and ordering records via e-mail) once security issues get worked out - I hadn't realized exactly how non-secure e-mail is, but I do now. In any event, I'll continue discussing this with the relevant people down there, and you'll all know about it as soon as the service is ready. (On a side note, Dischord is on-line now, but I don't know what their address is. Simple Machines is still working on it, and TeenBeat will probably sit back for a while and think about the whole situation before jumping in.) 2. Record Reviews: Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, "On The Edge" (Mainstream Records - some odd UK pressing) A compilation of tracks from the first 2 Amboy Dukes LPs and some other oddities. Now, I've always loved "Journey To The Center Of The Mind" but I was wary of how a whole CD would hold up... my fears were unwarranted. It does sound dated (1968-69), but not hopelessly so, and again, since I didn't exactly grow up with this stuff, it doesn't bother me the way it might some of the elders of the list. Luckily, Ted hadn't started into his path of utter misogyny and bow-hunting yet, so I can just stick to the music and say that he's a fine guitar player, even if some of the arrangements are clicheed. There's supposed to be a second volume, called "Over The Top" - I'd be much more wary of that one. * 3/4 Sonny Sharrock, "Ask The Ages" (Axiom - Bill Laswell's subdivision of a mersh conglomerate) Back in the late 60s, Sonny was one of the first free-jazz guitarists, taking things out and up, injecting rock-style and effects into the clean guitar lines that trace back from Wes Montgomery to Django Reinhardt and Charlie Christian. He played a good bit with Pharoah Sanders before moving into Last Exit with Peter Brotzmann. Anyway, Sonny sorta disappeared for a while, and then came back and knocked everyone's socks off in 1991 with this album. He's joined by Pharoah Sanders, Elvin Jones, and Charnett Moffett - an all-star session. The songs have a slightly late-60s sound to them, but they're light years ahead of most of the Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff. I can cry and be happy at the same time listening to this album. And it's not just because I'm "jaded and tired of indie-rock" - this record moved me when I first heard it, at a time when I still thought Superchunk ruled the universe. :) (No, I'm not knocking chunk, really...) *** And just when you thought it was safe to enter the record stores again, there's another new Unrest single - the "Animal Park" ep. "Full color cover designed by Bridget" with some help from a really bad porno mag... let's just say that the cover model (male) is, um, well-endowed. 2 new songs - Afternoon Train and Hey Hey Halifax, and a remix of "Light Command." Also, keep your eyes peeled for the soundtrack to a new Jon Moritsugu film - "Mod Fuck Explosion" - Unrest does half the LP. Aren't posthumous releases sorta strange? Sean skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu P.S. Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Spinanes do a pretty neat cover of Mission of Burma's "Fame and Fortune" ? That totally floored me last night, although much of their set was very samey. ---------- From: es229@eng.warwick.ac.uk Glenn Branca Concert Review Review (sorta) : Glenn Branca Ensemble - Queen Elizabeth Hall, London (24/02/94) Symphony No.10 for Massed Electric Guitars with selected movements from Symphony No.8 personnel list : Glenn Branca conductor Evans Wohlforth guitar Eric Hubel guitar Brannon Hungness guitar Carolyn Master guitar Miriam McDonough bass and keyboard David Reid bass and guitar Virgil Moorefield drums John Myers guitar Phil Kline guitar Ellen Watkins guitar Wharton Tiers sound For those that are unfamiliar, Queen Elizabeth Hall is part of the 60's concrete arts complex situated on the South Bank of the River Thames that is more generally the home of works by more 'classical' composers. A formal setting for the world premiere of Branca's Symphony No.10, in a wooden panelled, leather seated hall, filled to near capacity by a crowd best described as the 'Indie Kids that grew up'. Coming on stage, Branca announced that the evenings performance would consist of two extracts from Symphony No.8 (the Mystery) followed by pieces from the new work with the newely aquired working titles of "The Final Problem" and something else which I missed, but that Branca also seemed pretty unclear about. There was to be no intermission between the works except time required to re-tune and change the inevitable broken strings. Branca's music is incredible. On the surface it can seem like an atonal, or rather mono-tonal, collection of rhythmic patterns with associated high frequency noise, distortion and feedback. But as you get drawn in, the overtones and resonances that are created take on extra dimension and clarity that produce effects of depth, space and uncontrolled harmonies. You begin to wonder where all the sound is coming from. Ten guitars strumming repetitive simple patterns shouldn't be capable of producing it ! At times the sound, at high volume, takes on the impression of an orchestral string section, a church organ, or a large choir, and at the center of it all Glenn Branca conductor/beatnik dancer/muppet on speed. Highly recommended. Commentary (sorta) : The presentation of Glenn Branca's music, deliberate or otherwise, suggests a parody of the establishment (unsurprising considering his musical heritage) but it still must sit, however uncomfortably, at one edge of that establishment. If comparisons can be made between Branca's sound and that of Sonic Youth, then equally that comparison can be made with Gorecki, Glass, Cage or a whole host of other modern composers. Does this make it suitable copy for I-L ? Is Glenn Branca the future of modern music ? (I hope not.) But at present, in my eyes at least, he has an edge, something that makes his music interesting, exciting and different. Next week, I might find that same excitment has moved to techno, rap, the next MBV clone band or even, dare I say it, something 'mainstream'. 'Indie' music generally has an 'edge' which I enjoy, but can at times become staid and boring too, and that's where other musical spheres inspire and re-new. Anyhow I think this is where I came in ... time to get some sleep and shutdafuckup. Tony (esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk || es229@eng.warwick.ac.uk) ----------- From: "Theodore A. Khoury" <khoury@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> Dick Dale Show Review DICK DALE @ the Back Room, Austin, TX (2/28/94) Just as I would be skeptical of a Sandy Nelson, or Link Wray comeback, the amazing Dick Dale lies in the same leagues. He most definitly is one of the top influence on all forms of speed-indie music( hardcore, metal, blah). Well over 50, and a pony-tail down to the small of his back, he blew away a crown of 60, like no other show. Touring with a bassist and drummer (couple of metal-heads, younger than himself), he played a rip-roaring set. Speaking of Link, he performed 'Rumble' from early Link days. He played a lot of classics: Nitro, Banzai Washout, etc., but played too much from his new album, which is considerably slicker. During the drum solo (!), he picked up some sticks and played overtop of the drummer, and then took the sticks and beat out a solo on the bass, while the bassist moved around the fret board, did some flashy spins, and stick tricks too, quite dazzling. He plays a right-handed guitar, upside down - left-handed. Apparently, over this tour the past year, there's been a group from Canada following him, called 'Dickheads'. After the show, he demanded to meet everyone in the audience and sign autographs. If you're into the original of the surf-instro explosion, (the one who gave us Man or Astroman?, Shadowy Men, Phantom Surfers, etc.) and he comes your way, make it a priority, and become a Dickhead. Ted Khoury ------------ exploder, crooked rain, misc From: mark8@phantom.com (Mark Cornick) [shouldn't that be mark14? - sean :)] Greetings from my new accomodations in cyberspace. Whoop-de-do! I like MindVox so much, I might actually keep the account open. (heh, heh, heh.) Here's some bits 'n' pieces: - _Eggs Teenbeat 96 Exploder_ 2xLP (Teenbeat): Yeah, it's finally out! (and it took even longer than _Deep End_!) Much more sprawling than previous records from los Huevos, with actually only a little bit of filler (were three title tracks necessary? I dunno.) Less jangly/college-rock-ish than Bruiser (then again, 2/3 of the band is different, so this isn't all that unexpected); shows several influences (ranging from the Pastels to [ulp] Boston.) Winning tracks include "A Pit With Spikes" (much better than the 45 version; the LP version includes some nice Left Banke-ish baroque touches), "Ampallang" (the brightest pop ditty ever written about a penis piercing, no doubt) and "March Of The Triumphant Elephants" (Theremin- powered audio-geek madness.) Something for every indie-rock fan here (including people who actually know who Eggs are.) ** - Pavement _Crooked Rain Crooked Rain_ LP+45 (Matador): As you know, I liked "Cut Your Hair" when I reviewed it a week or so back. The rest of the LP is quite good too; while parts of this record may sound classic-rockish at first listen (the first song reeks of 7T's metal all the way!) there's always something just a little bit askew, a little bit "wrong" with the songs, and that's what's great about Pavement: their aplomb. Perhaps not the masterpiece that S&E was, but hardly the letdown so many of us were expecting (hoping for?) Picks: "Elevate Me Later", "5-4=Unity", "Newark Wilder" and, of course, "Cut Your Hair." "Jam Kids", on the bonus 45, is prime as well. ** Depending on monetary circumstances, I might head out to the Yoyo-agogo event this summer. I have yet to make it to any of these defining events in indiedom (including the Elegant Chaos popfest that happened right in my own hometown! christ, what a slacker) and it'd be an excuse for me to venture west of the Misssissippi for only the second time in my life. Anyone heard anything more about the event? (Like, any bands in particular?) [I've got some feelers out, since I plan to go as well, and I'll keep posting whenever I hear anything real. - Lena] Mark Cornick \ / 8 that's a mighty big word for a ten year old mark8@phantom.com / \ ------------- From: Stephen Clover <cloverst@kai.ee.cit.ac.nz> jps experience/cinematic/sold gold hell victoria university student union hall, sunday 27 february 1994 before tonight, i wasn't sure exactly _which_ members of solid gold hell were formerly in s.p.u.d., but after only three songs, i was convinced that it was the guitarist, the singer, the bassist and the drummer. they really did sound a lot like the late s.p.u.d., although i should say that this was not a problem as i never got to see them play while they were together. they wandered onto the stage, about an hour late (!), and eventually the show got underway. they were pretty good, too. a real mixture of style, as i said a lot of s.p.u.d., especially the vocals, but if anything looser, with generally more to the songs. most of the numbers featured a of of different parts, fast bits and slow bits, and some complicated rhythm structures as well. some of the numbers featured a trombone, played by the singer, which was also pretty good, and added a real edge to the sound. they basically really mixed it up, and weren't caught doing the same thing for very long at all. as for a description of the sound -- a mixture, really, basically slow grind-ish bits, extended periods of noise, and fast, hardcore heavy bits, mixed up completely, all featuring the same twisted, moaned, disturbing (good) vocals and a fairly tight, interesting rhythm section. by the end of it, i'd decided that the guitarist was matthew heine, who incidentally does great shayne carter impressions while on stage (intentionally or not, i don't know), and the singer glen campbell, former s.p.u.d.-members. the bassist i have no idea about, but it took awile before i realised the drummer was gary sullivan from jpse. with guitarist and drummer in jpse now, i guess solid gold hell don't play when jpse are out of town (or should that be the other way around!). i quite enjoyed their set, i'd go and see them again. it should be noted that they didn't go down particularly well at all, as could possibly be obvious as you read on. the decision to put them on the same night as jpse & cinematic can have only been because they share those band-members, and it was only possible this way. cinematic were next up. well, i can't say i liked anything about them except for one song, which was completely out of place in the set and actually sounded more like a straitjacket fits song. they play a particularly light brand of guitar pop-songs, with vocals, lyrics and melodies that sound positively inane when coupled into a song. not only this -- it may be because i didn't like them, but i don't think so -- they appeared infuriatingly affected. i have only seen them once before, and that was only the last song of the set on that occasion, but i don't remember all the emotive tossing-of-well-groomed-hair, angst-filled looks, or ostentatious-body-motions while playing, then. but, that was more than six months ago, and cinematic hadn't played in front of (drum roll) the smashing pumpkins (!!) then! could be i'm reading into it a lot more than is true, but i thought they came across as tossy, wanky wannbe alternative popsters, overwhelmed with an unrealistic view of their own worth. and the crowd loved it, mostly! but of course, the crowd, mostly, sounded like they'd be happy at a bryan adams concert. don't get me wrong -- they are very good at what they do, it's just i don't like what they do, or how they do it. or how they plug their forthcoming album, no matter how humorously, after nearly every song. jpse came on after a while, and the crowd loved them too. they were pretty cool -- very mellow, trippy songs combined with me being very tired by this stage, it was a perfect end to the night, and the weekend. true, they were loose, and also seemed a little out of tune (instruments, and vocals) but they did some interesting things, especially to 'kickback' and 'in the sky' -- which now have a number of individual parts with their own distinct tempos, both slowed down and sped up. they played all the "hits" -- 'elemental', 'flex', 'into you', 'ray of shine', 'breathe', plus a number of album tracks and one i didn't recognise ('crush'?). at this stage, i was just lying back in a chair with my eyes closed, enjoying the music. the sound hasn't changed that much since the addition of the new guitarist, except maybe what i mentioned above. when they finished, they were off for about 30 seconds! (i swear - not even enough time to open a bottle of beer!) before coming back for a one song encore. overall, a worthwhile night for only $10. after all, it may have been the last chance i get to see jpse play -- they are rumoured to be breaking up soon, along with the straitjacket fits, who are supposed to have already split. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= bailter space/the 3d's/celine victoria university student union hall, tuesday 1 march 1994 this night was another late start, celine showed up on the stage around 9:30, bringing the robert cray band (over the pa) to a timely and welcome demise. contrary to my expectations (a little harsh, perhaps -- i'd never heard of them before!) they were great. if i described them as a cross between sonic youth, the dead c, and early swans music, you'd get the general idea -- noise-laden, very loud, aggressive songs played quite slowly and creatively! they spend a lot of time with their backs half-turned to the audience, communicating, and i suspect it was necessary as they appeared to be improvising a fair amount in some parts of the show. the guitarist attacked the songs, and his instrument, while playing, and the songs themselves were interesting, not least that (as far as i could tell) there was barely any conventional time-signatures or drum patterns at all. the overall intensity of the show was quite high, and appreciated by the crowd who, i suspect, most of whom were there to see bailter space. put it like this, on the strength of the performance, i'd buy their record (if they had one..). the 3d's were were, well, the 3d's -- noisy, loud, energetic, a lot of fun. it was a pleasant surprise to hear a large amount of old material this time around -- i think nearly half the set was numbers off "helzapoppin" and "swarty songs for swabs", and an extra surprise was the rendition of 'meluzina man' with original vocal harmonies intact -- chilling. they also played with a fair amount of intensity, especially david saunders, who appeared to go into semi-seizures while singing -- physically attacking the microphone when singing (as best one can while playing the guitar simultaneously) crouched almost doubled-up due to the height the mic-stand was set at, and performing a number of sudden violent jerking shuddering body-throws in between some lines. [I thought it was David Mitchell who sang crouched over his mike - at least he did when I saw the 3d's two summers ago, when they still had a US record label - Sean] intriguing -- it didn't appear as ridiculous as it probably sounds, it just added to the performance. the set also set a large number of people down the front of the hall jumping, slamming and crowd surfing -- an amusing result of this at one stage was before playing 'the young and the restless', david mitchell announced the song and made pointed references to them. overall, another fine performance from them, but i don't think anyone expected anything less. after a bit of a wait, mainly because of some seeming diffculties if setting up brent maclaughlin's drum pads & sampler, bailter space slowly appeared. how to describe their set? they were loud -- i was wearing earplugs, but they were still pretty damn loud despite. i removed the plugs at one stage to test the level, and it was ear-damaging, i'm sure of it. they were tight, almost to an unnatural degree -- songs began with their wash of noise, and go from there, but the ended perfectly every time; one instant there is bs hammering at your head and body, the next, perfect silence (and the next thunderous applause!). they were intense, without seeming to be -- sure, veins stand out in alistair parker's head & neck as he throws himself into each song and the vocals emerge from places unknown, but john halvorsen almost disinterested, standing back, avoiding the ring of the carefully placed spotlight which is supposed to highlight him, calmly and precisely playing his minimalistic basslines, eyes half closed as if conjuring the sound from elsewhere. brent maclaughlin appears almost comical, baseball cap on backwards, large, grim smile on his face as he incessantly pounds the hell out of his kit, especially as there was no drum riser and only his head, and the top half of his torso, are visible. they seemed to be communicating constantly while playing, especially evident as some of the songs played seemed to be 're-mixed' -- different (in some cases a lot different) from the album versions. they played a number of tracks from "robot world", opening with 'begin', two or three from "thermos", 'grader spader' from "tanker", and 'x' and 'projects' from "b.e.i.p.". parker and halvorsen swapped vocal/guitar and bass duties for these two, and halvorsen sang them both wonderfully, especially 'projects', bellowing the words with such violence ("hey!") that it made me wonder where the inspiration for the song came from. they also played one (or two?) songs i didn't recognise, presumably from their (hinted at) forthcoming album, rumoured for later this month. this was a wonderful performance. at the end, there was wild applause and judging by the volume, almost everyone present seemed to be calling for more. shortly afterward they came back on and played two more songs, also announcing that they have another show in wellington in about three weeks or so! (what a homecoming :). in all, this night was the better of the two, although more expensive, it was worth the cost simply to see bailter space after nearly two years abroad. in addition, the music on the pa was also a lot more interesting, except for the robert cray -- they played the skeptics, lung, and into the void(!). in all, a great show. i only need to know one thing -- where did all those people get their great bailter space t-shirts (the ones with the gordon's album cover diver on the front)? ---------- From: DDBAN203G@UNIVERSITY-CENTRAL-ENGLAND.AC.UK Subject: cool music review time again the week's record reviews, but first.... It was me who reviewed the Orchids CD, and me who called it probably the best record ever. And in the cold light of day....i still think that! One problem could be that the album has TOO MUCH RICHNESS! I have to take it in small doses, say a song at a time. This week i got 3 singles, all a few months or longer old and all probably reviewed before, but then again so what? here we go: The Fall - Why Are People Grudegful? (Cog Sinister) The Fall eh? That Mark E Smith eh? Wouldn't it be great if he was your uncle or something. Always moaning about the amount of head on his pint. The Fall are always inventive, they never give you something straight, always something a little...odd. "Glam racket" is ace, it is a glorious racket, and very glamourous. Glamour in the pagan sense perhaps though. (*) Velocity Girl - Creepy (Sub Pop) Oh yes, "Creepy" has one of those melodies doesn't it? You hear it once on the radio and after that keep remembering it, even if you forget who did it. I did. I got this because i liked "Audrey's Eyes" and it was green vinyl, only when i played it i said "Oh so it was Velocity Girl!" Great song. Can't remember what the other side was. (*1/2) Saint Etienne - I Was Born On Christmas Day (Heavenly) Their Xmas single, dead cool it is too. It sounds a bit like Kylie, all pop and bouncy and sexy (!) and is a great song truly, should have been christmas number one not that lump of shite Mr Blobby - who i am glad to say has been exposed for what he really is, a thug who ruins little children's cake. I bet all you non-UK readers are thinking, "what the hell is he talking about?" Don't ask me, i don't know either.(*) "Sculpture Is Dead. You Are Fascist." this mail was from: c.davies@uce.ac.uk at the: university of central england in birmingham ------------ From: SONIKD@delphi.com great show - The Ex I saw an incredibly great show the other night (Feb 28) at Stache's here in Columbus, Ohio. I was working late on a project so I didn't there until The Ex got up to play so I missed all the opening bands (Guided By Voices was one of them). But The Ex put up one of the greatest walls of sound I've seen in a long time. I think they're from England or Holland - some foreign land. The cello player added a definite celtic influence and the woman on drums played some great tribal riffs. I you need a comparison to some other band I would say imagine if The Drovers had taken some acid (well, lots), smoked many pipes of crack for good measure and then got up to play - that might be pretty close. If they are touring near you definitely go see them. They are great!!! Well gotta go - off to see Mr. P-Funk himself, George Clinton. I'll let you know how it was. joey pospisil (frog a mungus) columbus, oHIo sonikd@delphi.com ;{] ----------- From: EDWARDS GREGORY BRYCE <edwardsg@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Felt Pilotes, other 7"s Felt Pilotes-----Moving Day/Another Day/Kathy's House 7" EP This sparkling Denver band does it again with their slow, sad, catchy tunefullness. Elemental chords, lots of cymbal and snare, and beautiful basslines add up to a great second vinyl release. I highly recommend this to people who like subtlety in music. It can be purchased directly from Spit and a Half records @ p.o.box 18510 Denver, Co. 80218 John P./Bob S.-----Porky's Revenge/American Baby 4 song split 7" John (of Felt Pilotes) does some mellow acoustic stuff that is fairly decent, although a little bit dreary...not the typical FP stuff. Of the two tunes, "Acid Rain" works best for me. Robert of the Apples produced John's side. Bob S. of the Festering Rinyanyons (an Illinois band I believe) creates distorted fuzz pop (sans bass and drums) that somehow sounds original. Maybe it's the production...the guitar sort of gets phased in and out for no particular reason. "My Song" is my fave on this side. I don't know anything about this guy but his songs were recorded at the ultra-trendy Idful in Chicago with Casey Rice. Write to him @ Big Yucky p.o. box 791 DeKalb, Il. 60115 or order the single through Spit and a Half. Cavity-----Crestfallen EP I guess you could file this under the Riot Grrl category, although these people actually know how to play. There is something appealing about this single that has yet to come through in their live show (except maybe when the lead singer's dress fell off on stage last week...VERY amusing). Of the three tunes, "Stepdad" is the best. I cannot resist such inane lyrics as "You came into my room. You didn't even knock. It fell out of your jeans. You call that a cock!?!" If this band actually took themselves seriously, I'd be worried. But instead of being self important, they simply play punk rock tunes and have fun doing it. Write them @ Cricket Ranch Records p.o.box 4763 Boulder, Co. 80306. ------------ Advertisements: ------------ From: Robert Poss <rmposs@panix.com> Our next two (Band Of Susans) shows, in case anyone is interested: ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 19 Boston/Middle East w/Green Magnet School, Th' Faith Healers, Shiva Speedway March 26 Washington, D.C./Black Cat w/Trumans Water ------------------------------------------------------------------- Band Of Susans -- Strong Enough For A Woman, Gentle Enough For A Man ------------- From: MGANGLOFF@Gems.VCU.EDU NEW FROM RADIOACTIVE RAT RECORDS: The Dixie Flatline compilation cd. 20 songs from 15 bands, featuring the Art Monks, Buzzoven, Damn Near Red, Flailo, Hose Got Cable, King Sour, Labradford, Ladyfinger, Mulch, Pelt, Somatron, Spot Me 20, Ugly Head, Yardmonster & 310. $8 ppd from 238 S. Cherry St. Richmond VA 23220 (pls. make checks payable to Amy Shea). Also new from Radioactive Rat Records and Turn of the Century Records: Pelt/Damn Near Red split 7-inch. $3 ppd from RadRatRec address. ---------- From: Steve Folta <folta@netcom.com> Tube Alloy mail-order catalog by FTP I run a tiny record label called Tube Alloy Recording, and it finally occurred to me to make the Tube Alloy mail-order catalog available by FTP. Seven-inches by Junket, Hugh, Speed Bumps, and others are available. Anonymous FTP to "ftp.netcom.com", then "cd pub/folta". "TuA.Catalog" is the catalog, "TuA.Reviews" is a file of some fanzine reviews of the records in the catalog. If you don't have FTP access, you can email me (folta@netcom.com) and I'll send you a copy by email. <------------------------------------------------------------> The Indie-List Digest is published a few times each week (usually Tuesdays and Fridays) by the Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. What Who Where Editor Sean Murphy skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu Moderator K. 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