Indie-List_V3_N8 Come along if you care, Come along if you dare, Take a ride to the land inside and you'll see... ############################ Indie List Digest! February 1st, 1994 Volume 3, Number 8 ############################ In this issue: Message from the Moderator Working Holiday/Scrawl/Antimony New Zealand Reviews Responses to Mr. Mike's questions Indie-L Radio? Bedazzled Label Reviews 6 7" singles....and neato too Comments on ambient-replies + CELL review DQE Transient Thought Procesees with Random Pronouncements Alex Chilton and Ben Vaughn in DC Losing one's religion Mary Lou Lord Live Review Royal Trux: on record, live @ Jabberjaw Unrest/Versus/Swarays Live Gabe's Iowa City 1/29/94 What I Did With My Money In 93 (The New Stuff) What I Did With My Money In 93 (The Old Stuff) Steve Albini Strikes Again (reprint from Chicago Reader) and some ads: new indie Dewdrops releases 4AD covers CD Over the Wall Fanzine &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& From: K. Lena Bennett Message from the Moderator Don't be a loser.... Give your mailings to me DESCRIPTIVE subject headers and make sure to indicate in the subject line that they are for the indie list. I don't have the time to read your articles and make up subject headers, and neither does Sean. Get on it, kids..... &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Message from the editor: DAMN! over 1600 lines before I write a word... meaning that I'll hold off 'til next time (for the most part)... this is psycho, and that's good. Quick music notes: 1. New Eggs LP (with too long a title for me to remember - ask Mr. Cornick for details :) is fucking unreal - Mark Robinson gave all his weirdness vibes to Andrew Beaujon for the moment... this double LP is years stranger than Malcolm X Park was... it makes Kustom Karnal look normal, and Bruiser like it's not even related to this band (which kinda makes sense - Andrew's the only original Egg still playing). 2. New Tsunami LP won't convert any of you, I'm afraid - I think it's pretty solid, but if you already think they're boring, you'll probably feel the same here. I find more consistency in the songs - no obvious weak points like Writing Letters this time around, and hearing Jenny and Kristin try to harness the power of feedback is sorta fun (they need to take some lessons from Mary Timony - see #4). No jokey shit, though, just music. A new single will be out in 6 weeks or so (Be Like That b/w Newspaper) and then the LP should be 6 weeks after that... be prepared for production delays as always... 3. Future Simple Machines projects - singles with Franklin Bruno and Danielle Howle (she's really cool, sorta wacked - I guess that comes from living most of your life in Columbia, SC), and who knows what else, besides a Tsunami European tour in late May/all of June/maybe part of July. More details as they come... 4. One show review - Helium, Alkaline, and Juicy at Terrace Club, Princeton, NJ, 1/30/93 Openers were Juicy - 3 women from NYC, I think, though I also heard that one of them is in Scarce. Regardless of hometown, this was the embodiment of all the arguments I've seen in the past two years AGAINST the D.I.Y. "scene" and style. This was somewhere along the line of Bratmobile-Lite - zero talent, zero compassion, zero interest in actually playing as long as "they're having fun and being cool." (I'm probably being a little harsh, but hell, I'm entitled, it's just an opinion... which was common to much of the crowd...). I love Bratmobile because they care about what they do, they just don't have the technical expertise of other bands. Juicy didn't have the concern. At least they played only 5 or 6 songs... Alkaline is also from NYC, and I believe that this is Jason Asnes' new band (he was in Nice Strong Arm, Saturnine, and Sugartime). The comparisons which follow are flavored by 1.) the appearance of Rob Hale on drums - he used to play regularly with Versus and still does on occasion; and 2.) the female bass player was wearing a Versus/Shazam! t-shirt. I started out thinking this was "Versus without the noisy guitar parts" but the band evolved beyond that a bit - the comparisons are valid since Jason and Rob have played with Richard and Fontaine, but I don't want to cripple Alkaline by saying that they're just "versus wanna-bes" 'cause they're not. A really good set after the first two songs - I hope Rob gives up his free-agent drumming and settles in with a band real soon. Helium. Wow. I don't think I can listen to my singles now... they'll pale in comparison to the show they did last night. Mary Timony is the queen of creative, quiet feedback as an instrument in the songs, while Brian and Shawn (both ex-Dumptruck) keep a beat and a path going behind Mary. Very intense and enjoyable - rumor has it that a new EP is due in February on Matador, with LP to follow sometime... I just hope that this band is allowed to do what they want musically as they move up - unfortunately, their current sound won't "move product" in a commercial sense... it's too complex and interesting for teeny-boppers, even if Helium could be marketed on their appearance. [No, I'm not implying that they're following a pipeline to major-labelness by being on Matador, and I'm not saying that physical appearance had anything to do with my enjoyment of the band.] Good luck to them - they deserve it after the nightmares of Dumptruck and the implosion of Autoclave (see Wind-Up Toy #1 for more on the Dumptruck shit...). Sean skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& From: "BRUCKER-COHEN,JONAH,MR" <LJAI@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Subject: Working Holiday/Scrawl/Antimony I haven't written a submission to the I-L since before Christmas break so I thought I would rattle off a few reviews of shows that I've been to in the last two months. Working Holiday '94: This was probably the highlight of my break, as well everyone else who showed up for these three days of concentrated indie rock. I think the band that really stood out over everyone else (besides Rodan of course) were Louisville's Crain. This trio surprised me even more than the quality of the various singles they have released on Allied, Compulsiv, and Three Little Girls. Every song was an exhilerating exploration into the post Bastro-Bitch Magnet vein, and reminded me a lot of heavy groove oriented Don Caballero (with vocals) managing to keep the listener glued to the stage. You could feel your ears yelling for more. Other highlights included the first song of Pitchblende's set when guitarist Justin Chearno became overly excited tripping on his feet, falling on his guitar, and eventually landing on h is face. He later told me that he got "rug burn" on his eye during that fall and did not understand what came over him. During Tsunami's set, drummer John Pamer's bass drum kick was a bit harsher than he had expected, knocking over a cinder block onto two pitchers, one filled with water, the other filled with beer. Not wanting to interrupt their set, Rodan guitarist and Weekend MC Jason Noble sat down in the spill and held the drum through the first song. His services were eventually replaced by a new piece of cement. Overall, the shows were a true success selling out on Saturday, and I think Sunday as well. The Coctails were also a stand out playing about two hours with no breaks, and admitting jokingly "We can't sing and play at the same time". I think Mr. Greenberg had something up his sleeve. He still is the best. Scrawl W/ Bite at the Jailhouse Rock Jan. 25th This show was one that I had been waiting for for a very long time. I've never seen Scrawl before, but have the Bloodsucker EP, and a few singles on various compilations. Now that I saw the show, I wish that I had bought Velvet Hammer because most of the set came from that album. Bite, a local Montreal band opened the show, playing poppy, noisy, and at some times heavy songs while their singer's voice was very high pitched, and really interesting to hear. I've never seen them live before, but people i spoke to have said they were better at other times. They have just released a single on Montreal's own Derivative Records, who have put t out records by Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet, Trenchmouth, Bliss, Jale (Sub PoP's newest ), and an upcoming one by Eric's Trip. I guess this show was their "record release party" and i thought they played very well, only their songs had a similar style that kind of made them all run together. However, they are definitely a band to listen and look for. Scrawl on the other hand met my expectations. Their set list included a whopping 23 songs (i guess they didn't want to play an encore ) with titles such as "Your Mother Wants to Know", "Clock Song", " Vi Ploriontos", "Take a Swing", and a slowed down version of "Love's Insecticide" without percussion. Their new drummer was so steady and really made their sound indicative of warranting the production authority of Steve Albini for Velvet Hammer. They said they were happy to be in Montreal, but gathering the weather (minus 30 Celcius) I think they were probably bluffing. Before their last song they told the audience not to freeze, i don't think it worked on my walk home. Scrawl are really great, and their live performance really shows the clarity of their newer sound. Their tour dates are posted on the internet news group alt.music.alt through Andy Spencer, the husband of Scrawl's Bassist? Guitarist? I'm not sure. Holy Rollers w/ Antimony at 9:30 Club WDC jan 1st The reason I went to this show was to see Antimony, not the Rollers although I have some of their records, but I have distanced myself from them since they acquired their new rhythm section. Antimony are all whats left of Circus Lupus since they broke up in early September, and Chris Thompson formed Las Mordidas with Dug E. Bird of RL/ST and ex-beefeater. Antimony combine what Circus Lupus did best with bass-drum action and high treble built guitars provided by Chris Hamley. Most of the stuff they played was instrumental although Chris and Seth Lorinczi took turns on vox for a few tracks. It was a really impressive first show for them and I hope that they turn it into vinyl soon. I think Erica Casebolt was a bit nervous at the outset, but everything kind of worked itself out later and her drumming never sounded better. &&&&&&&&&&&& From: Stephen Clover <s_clover@kai.ee.cit.ac.nz> Subject: New Zealand Reviews hi, thought it might be fun to gush over one or two more new zealand releases again, as well as mention some other stuff, so here goes with some more crap reviews. -----the 3d's "the venus trail" (flying nun)----- wow. i was quite impressed with the 3d's 1992 release "helzapoppin", but i think this is even better. their sound has both developed, and diversified. the album was recorded in an old masonic lodge in dunedin, and while the production has added a lot to the songs -- vocal effects, strange sound/sample noise and a great "band" sound -- it is not overdone at all. the vocals are delivered in an intense, somewhat haunting manner, and are mostly quite brilliant. i feel a lot of the songs are very well written, and the album as a whole is stronger for it. standout tracks for me are 'hey seuss' (somebody's been listening to the jesus lizard, i'm sure of it), 'philadelphia rising', 'man on the verge of a nervous breakdown', 'jane air', 'ice', and my favourite, 'spooky' -- possibly one of the most accurate song titles ever -- this beautiful acoustic song is pretty damn spooky, and quite wonderful, then just when you thought it was over david mitchell throws some slabs of guitar noise at you. very quickly became one of my favourite new zealand albums, and the purchase of it made me all the more keen to pick up.. -----the 3d's "fish tales/swarthy songs for swabs" (flying nun)----- after "helzapoppin" and "the venus trail", i thought i had better get the bands early two EP's. fortunately for me, and quite conveniently too, flying nun reissued them both on one cd. the sound is rawer, there's less fancy bits but the entire thing rocks in the more traditional 3d's manner, apart from the one track 'a ball of purple cotton' which is not a rock song, more a short spoken monologue by denise roughan about an unnamed female, backed by a pretty, 3d's guitar line, some feedback/distortion, and a very 'dead c' modulation underlying the entire track. there's more melody, but the noise remains, and there's the added bonus of two previously unreleased demo versions of 'hairs' and 'one eye opened' (from "helzapoppin"). standout tracks for me across both of the EP's would be 'first church', evil kid', 'evocation of w.c. fields', 'sing-song', 'ritual tragick', and 'meluzina man', plus the aforementioned 'purple cotton', which is also very good. need i also mention that the 3d's are highly recommended live? -----the hallelujah picasso's "drinking with judas" (wildside)----- the picasso's are one of those much-maligned beasts, a crossover band, but they do it pretty well, their particular brand being a sort of hardcore/reggae/punk/dub thing. pretty much what happens is lots of noisy guitar lines riffing accompanied by great basslines, shouting, a dub/reggae rhythm section, reggae/rap style vocals and a bad attitude (in the best possible sense). that is unless they're doing one of their beautiful dub-ballads on the side. this release is their second album, after their pretty popular (in an obscure new zealand way) "hateman in love". and it's pretty much more of the same, except a lot more diverse and a lot more fun. it kicks straight into the great title track, with the lines 'so tap the bottle and twist the cap, tap the bottle and twist the cap, here's the fuckin money now shut the fuck up'. the album is very long, and 21 tracks, but a number of these are amusing filler material -- snippets of phone calls, silly studio outtakes, and more than one 'guest appearance' by mc oj and his rhythm slave, a local rap/hip-hop duo, who seem to have been hanging round the studio a lot. one of the album's songs is in fact a huge pisstake of the pair's song 'doc. martens' -- very funny if you know the original. this wonderful, at times hilarious, album is too diverse to go into in any great detail, suffice to say there's a song for every mood and occasion on here, and a lot to spare. in fact, exactly what i would've expected the (fairly schizophrenic) picasso's to produce on being put in a studio and told to record an album. one slight annoyance is the way they've tacked two or three songs together into one track on a few occasions, but it's not that much of a deal. as far as standout tracks go, i'm not going to try -- they all are worthy of mention. in addition, there's some great caricatures of the band members by martin edmond in the liner notes, and the horn section from supergroove guest on two tracks as well. so, as the picasso's say, "free your ass and your mind will follow (bow wow wow yippy yo yippy yay)..." -----some miscellaneous notes----- * froithead, the palmerston north noise band, have recorded three tracks on the texas label awful records' compilation album "manifestation". i haven't heard the album yet -- still waiting for a copy. * bailter space have released a new EP in the states called "b.e.i.p." which includes two new tracks, 'x' and 'people & projects', and two songs from "robot world", 'robot world' and 'e.i.p.'. it hasn't been released in new zealand yet. * the new head like a hole album, "flik yourself of yourself", is due to be released very soon, after delays in remixing it. the new material sounds brilliant live, however. * shihad are still procrastinating about the release of the next single from "churn", called 'stations'. it's supposed to be this month. * and a quote (sic) from steve albini and bob spurr weston iv (shellac): "..the complete list of good bands that currently exist in america includes the jon spencer blues explosion, six finger satellite, the jesus lizard, don caballero, tortoise, gastr' del sol, a canadian instrumental band called the shadowy men on a shadowy planet...bailter space, the dead c..." take it how you want... bye for now, steve/ --- "rake suck. i like jangly pop" &&&&&&&&&&&&&& From: Mark Cornick <CORNICK@delphi.com> Responses to Mr. Mike... WH CD - has been rumored but I doubt they'll do it -- they'd have to cut a few songs, if my calcs are right (may I suggest Veronica Lake? :-) Eggs Bruiser LP (released on CD only) came out in 1991, I believe. Richmond Music Coop CDs - NO! BAD! The first one is at least tolerable - there's one good song each from Schwa and the Technical Jed - but the second one (Several Dead Presidents Are Buried In Our Backyard) is awful - about 11 or 12 bands none of which stand out. It's so bad that Jack Uglyhead (not a roommate of mine, BTW, just a neighbor) and I are planning a spoof comp called "Some Band From Canada Wrote A Song About Our Backyard." The good songs from Vol. 1 are both on the Something Pretty Beautiful comp, which isn't so much better but at least has a higher diamonds-to-dirt ratio. Richmond Shmichmond, --mark &&&&&& From: sokay@swift.mitre.org (0) Indie-L Radio? Greetings, I just discovered the wonderful world of the MBONE and Multicast IP software here and was wondering if anybody out there on the Indie list is already doing a indie/punk/DIY show on Radio Free Internet? If not I'm going to try to set one up from my system over here in the next couple weeks. I've got the RFI programming schedule and it looks pretty open. If somebody out there would want to maybe help program or co-host this, that would be cool. And since it would be done over the net, we wouldn't have to be local to each other... Also, if anybody out there is in a band, could you comment on how you feel about having your music played on this kind of a medium? The use and distribution would be pretty much like Indie-List is right now(although they are not associated). For the unclued:MBONE is short for Internet Multicast Backbone, a way to send pakcet data, like audio or video to groups of hosts on the net but only send the data once without having to repeat the transmission for every system you want to receive it. There's a lot of technical shit behind this, but I'm going to skip it 'cause its not really relevant to Indie-L. If you're REALLY interested, pop over to parcftp.Xerox.com for the full horror. The end result is something like a public access radio or TV on the net... There are already a couple audio and video "chat channels" as well as real-time weather satellite images and other useful and toyful stuff... I just think that this would be a really cool way to share some of the stuff we keep writing we've bought or saw on here. Anyways, its an idea... let me know what you think, Yours in flannel and an Amoco worker's jacket that says "Randy" (NOT!), ----Steve ------- Stephen Okay sokay@mitre.org "You won't be happy with me,but give me one more chance, You won't be happy anyways..."----Magnetic Fields &&&&&&&&& From: nelson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu Bedazzled Label Reviews One of several recent 7" singles on the Bedazzled label is by Ultracherry Violet. Here is a review: Ultracherry Violet makes one hell of a wonderful noise with "Remember." Abundant fuzzed out guitar blows sheets of hot wind from severely loaded amps, and a heavy hitting drummer sets you straight about the facts of effective percussion. It's an exhilarating cacophony made all the more sweet with intro and outro chords of wobbly guitar at its best, and an all noises off interlude that reminds me of The Catherine Wheel's "Black Metallic." After that, "Anything Is Feasible" sounds less creative. It's still plenty noisy but not as memorable and it relies too heavily on a single chord progression making it much less tuneful but still an ok listen. Rating ** And here is a review of a Siddal single also on Bedazzled: "Ghost" is a calm one held together with a network of glistening guitar pearls. Elaine Winters has the voice of a young, slightly hoarse Kate Bush with lots of reverb. Further comparisons to the you-know-who Twins can be made if you're lazy on the more blissed-out and prettier "Leaving." It sways and waltzes through your living room with more than one nod to Shelleyan Orphan. One of these days Siddal is going to make one heck of an album. Rating * Brant ------------------------------------------------- | Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | | Dewdrops Fanzine | Los Angeles, CA 90025-5567 | | nelson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu | |more info, use the finger command on this address| ------------------------------------------------- &&&&&&&&&&& From: DDBAN203G@UNIVERSITY-CENTRAL-ENGLAND.AC.UK 6 7" singles....and neato too This week's record reviews then: The Sugargliders - Top 40 Sculpture EP (Sarah records) The Sugargliders are the best australians in the world, they use so much to produce such great pop. Recently they have employed a trumpet. More indie should use brass or woodwind instruments! The title track is quite different for them. Very very good! Other tracks are Sugargliders by numbers, that means well worth 2 pounds! (*1/2) The Charlatans - Can't get out of bed (Beggars Banquet records) They used to be one of my early indie faves, but this new stuff does little for me. Not bad but not where i want. Quite rural and rocky. In a review it said very country rock, maybe. (**1/2) The Earthmen - Cool chick # 59 (Slumberland records - i think!) Hey hey hey we're the Monkees! These are australian i guess, seen quite a few of their records around, and seeing this in a bargain bin i could not resist. Its great! Cool! Suave! Sexy! Its in an orange sleeve!!!!! (*) Secret Shine - Unbearable (A Turntable Friend records) Secret Shine - After years EP (Sarah records) In the bargain bin were also the last 2 Secret Shine records i have not got. Secret Shine started off like Brighter fronted by Ian Brown, and now sound like early Slowdive fronted by Ian Brown. Thats why the Stone Roses LP is so late! Ian Brown is in Secret Shine!!! (* for both) there was a sixth, by Auto Haze, but i can't remember what the title was. It was on Summershine records, and the number of it is Shine 025. (Can remember the record's number but not the title - slack MAAAAAN!) Its quite good anyway, quite acoustic. **3/4 Nastyned &&&&&&&&&&&& From: "L. Pit" <pit@WI.leidenuniv.nl> Comments on ambient-replies + CELL review Hi Indie-List(en)ers ! Since Sean felt like he stopped making sense in last weeks I-L #6, I'll continue the confusion. I think the point made that there is a different musical culture between the US and Europe was well taken. It's good to be aware of this. However, don't get the idea that ambient is now the main thing in Europe. It's not. It's hot, but it's not everything-and-nothing-else-exists. It's just one small thing. One thing of many other things. Europe still rocks too, don't forget it ! Saying that US bands put on better live shows is not fair I think. I think that's highly subjective, not an observation of a difference. For example, the success of the Jesus & Mary Chain was almost solely based on their live-performances. Their records came second. And take the Boo Radleys for example. On their album "Giant Steps" (being heralded as one of the best album of 1993) they've taken great measures to make a sound record, everything had to be perfect. The studio is being used as an instrument. Everything is thought off. US bands seem to hate that, preferring to record the sound raw and original (take the Sebadoh's and Eric's Trip's for example). Meanwhile, on stage, the Boo Radleys blow you of the planet with a great live show that differs from they're album. They rock, they use great big noise-walls, and it's very intense. I could repeat this for PJ Harvey, or for Moonshake, or for Stereolab, etc, etc. Brits sound different on their albums in comparison with them playing live. They like to put things on records that can't be put on stage. It adds something extra for you at home. That doesn't mean however that they neglect their live-shows !! Mostly US album don't differ that much from them playing live I think. Live they're maybe more powerful, more dynamic. But not all that different in sound. Which also has something to say for, since live-performances are almost always the best experiences (I totally agree with Sean on this point, although I also agree with Ben that a major factor in this is the social aspect). The comment that US (rock)bands do better live shows was also put in the context of ambient-house (see Moo-Town Snacker's comment in I-L #3). But that is like comparing apples to pears. It's just not the same thing. If a good live show means "they rock", well, I'm sorry, but then of course everything outside of rock will fail to be good. For example, I've seen the Palace Brothers live, dabbling with country-blues. That was very intense! One of the best things I witnessed in 1993. No rock however. So how can you compare the Palace Brothers with, for example, Yo La Tengo ? You can't. It's not the same thing. [sure you can - intensity, performance, etc. - it's not just "ROCK" that pounds your skull into oblivion... - Sean] The same holds for comparing a liveshow of a rockband with an ambient-house performance. I really don't understand why dance music couldn't be well translated to the live stage? Why not? (Unfortunately I can not answer this question myself, since I haven't seen an ambient-house performance yet (but have read fantastic stories about it:). The bastards from the UK seem to prefer to dwell on their own little island, shying away from the mainland of Europe. Most of my fav's have been in the US though....) On the quality of our water: it must be healthy, since the population of the sealife-forms in it is pretty divers. The fascination for ambient right now does not need any explanation, other than a different attitude on our part: being more progressive. Always looking for new things. Just like sampling the feedback of guitars (MBV) was a fascination for a few years (and still is), now it's ambient. Basically, US is conservative, Europe progressive. (Is this an observation? I don't see things clearly anymore this late...). US probably likes to be conservative with their music. However, thinking a bit progressive I ask: isn't it a shame that US indie-bands haven't taken full advantage of their independent status? Meaning: looking outside of rock... (and I don't necessarily mean ambient-house, because again, that's just one thing)... And meaning: experimenting more. Or to quote a fav-line: "To boldly go where no-one has gone before..." >From Joep I've understood that J Mascis, on commenting the Utah Saints, stated that he didn't like to think about dabbling with electronics, because the number of possibilities would be too great. With guitars he felt he was limited (to some degree) which gives a more secure feeling.... well, if that isn't conservatism for you there, I'm Betty Boo. REVIEW TIME ! Right. (I thought I'd never come to it) --> Cell - "Living Room" (City Slang) Cell is one of the best 'standard' rockbands at the moment in my opinion, coming from NYC, USA. I saw them last year playing before Sugar. When Cell played I seemed to be the only one who paid attention. Cell was magnificent! After that Sugar played, and that was going to be my dipper of the year (while the rest of the audience seemed to enjoy Bob Mould; Strangely enough, since he really played shitty that night). Okay, okay, so this is a case in which a US band outperformed a UK band live. Don't get funny ideas though. "Living Room" is Cell's second album, successor to "Slo-Blo". It's produced by John Agnello (who worked with Jay Mascis). Most of the songs are well written, while a few are just plain simple. Best piece is 'Sad & Beautiful' I think, followed by 'Milky' and 'China Latina' amongst others. The songs are all powerful, intense, and it's got great melodies (although nothing of real importance to write in history-books). DiRienzo and Ian James both have great raw-but-not-that-raw voices. What else can I say? I'm pretty bad at reviewing records, I know it. All I can say is that I like it very much! (Oh, in case you're wondering what the hell they're saying at the end of the last song 'Blue Star', Keith is saying to Dave "you f---ed up this part", then John comes out of the producer-room saying "That sounded really good. But can you give me one more take?". Then: "Let's leave that one the way it is". Apparently Keith had been vomitting his stomach out before recording that piece, and after the six minutes recording he went back to the bathroom to continue dying some more... he claimed it had nothing to do with the booze... yeah right. I believe you Keith...) Greets, Loz PS. I - I've heard that a record under the name "California Dreaming" has been released. I haven't heard it myself, and haven't read any comments on it yet. I understood it's a record with ambient/mellow/techno/trance material from musicians in the States... I'm curious what they're up to. I'll let you know if it's any good. PS. II - Check out Underworld's "DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan" on Junior Boy's Own. The record blends house with rock. It is played with guitars and has some lyrics. Could be an eye-opener for those rockers who think house sucks. --- * These are modern times... now if we could just get modern musicians too. &&&&&&&&& From: dsrekcc@prism.gatech.edu (Chris Campbell) DQE DQE stands for Dairy Queen Empire (not DQExperience). [yeah, i realized that about 5 minutes after I sent out the damn list last time... - Sean] SOMEHOW Dairy Queen Inc found out ('92? '93?) and threatened a lawsuit, so they had to change it. Comprised of Grace Braun on GTR/VOC and Chris Verene on drums, they broke up amiably a couple months ago. Grace got married to a local indie-type here (Dugan Trodglen) a few months ago and formed Red Cloud with him (both have red hair, get it?). BTW, this is just public knowledge here in Atlanta, I personally have no contacts with them, besides the indirect one below. Red Cloud has a single coming out on Collision Recs soon, Arthur Davis' label. This is the same label that is issuing the Smoke single any day now (<- PLUG) with which I which I must admit corroborating. Ditto on the Indie-List t-shirt: what's up? [The project is on hold, as are all of my other projects, indefinitely. :) - Lena] Has anyone seen Slant 6? They're coming here next week, I can't find their singles locally, and the mail is slow. Lots of grrl-buzz, I know. Scrawl's 2-6 show at the Masquerade here apparently got bought out and has been moved to a 2-5 show at another venue (Midtown Music Hall). I guess my lurker status is revoked. [Okay, but next time can you type in normal-format paragraphs? - Lena] &&&&&&&& From: James Nash <CCX020@raven.coventry.ac.uk> Transient Thought Procesees with Random Pronouncements [Well, is this the sort of thing you want?! It does go on a bit.] [Well, put the word "Indie" or "I-L:" in the title, and it'll help Lena, the rest of the title is fine with me... - Sean] I intended to respond to Sean's comments on live/recorded stuff but ended up writing a load on the state of the UK charts and then eulogising techno, finally getting back to the original point. (Sean's text is commented out with > symbols) >(...) >I think that there's something in the water over there that might help >explain the fascination with ambient and other space music... where else >in the world would a classical symphony (admittedly, a really interesting >one, Gorecki's Symphony #5) make the charts, or a band that had been >obviously broken up for almost 10 years have a number one hit based on a >clothing commercial (The Clash) ? In fact, "Should I Stay" is The Clash's only ever Top Ten hit in the UK!! I agree with you on the state of our charts but you have to realise that they have changed a lot in the last ten years. It now takes a fraction of the sales to reach No.1 that it used to. Also, the size of Britain and the relatively small number of commercial TV channels makes it a lot easier (cheaper) to "hype" any individual record where the profits will be short-term but reasonable. It's done mainly by TV advertising, as in The Clash's case with a weird cross-breed of record/jeans ad where both parties (Levis and The Man) win. Compilations are sold almost purely by TV ads with ultra-cool TV graphics and some jock or other proclaiming this the "ultimate party album", reference the "Now That's What I Call Music" series currently numbering 26 double LPs. I think it is safe to say that the charts no longer "matter". I remember the time when all this was fields... ah! I mean... when there was a real buzz of excitement if an "indie" band got in the charts. Would they be on Top of The Pops? Would they go up a few positions or fall straight out again the next week? We now have the phenomenon of "No.26 with a bullet", e.g. Carter USM shoot into the charts at No.26 and drop straight out the next week because all their fans rushed out and bought it in the first week and then no-one else likes it or buys it. (Side-bar: My favourite example of indie crossover is the Jesus & Mary Chain who got to No.4 or something ridiculous with a song about heroin (Some Candy Talking) after one of the top Radio 1 jocks smashed the record across a turntable - whilst on air - to complain about this "sick and depraved" record.) We have all sorts of ridiculous regulations restricting how many songs you can have on a "single" and how long it can be; if it goes over the limit it has to be classed an album, etc. These are supposedly to restrict unscrupulous record companies shoving out cheap product with extra tracks/remixes/etc. as an unfair advantage over "real" product. The chart compilers have a point but they also end up endangering artistic integrity and, frankly, making a mockery of the charts. I believe the American charts have an element of radio airplay in them; luckily in this country it is based entirely on record sales from a supposedly random selection of shops equipped with the adequate technology to transmit bar-code readings back to Gallup where the totals are totted up. One trick of The Man has been to get its underlings to whizz round these shops buying up loads of copies. Another was to concentrate "freebies" (e.g. double 7" pack or free T-shirt) to these few shops. I use the past tense here because these practices have been pretty much stamped on. Payola, as in America, is unlikely here unless the Radio 1 producers can be bought. They are the ones who pretty much decide what gets playlisted on Fab 1 FM and that mostly determines which records from newer acts get into the charts. Should a scandal like payola break, there would be severe repercussions for the music industry and Radio 1; the latter currently under threat of privatisation by the Government which would certainly mean no more John Peel and the death of civilisation as we know it. :-] (There is a more subtle form of payola where the commercial media will feature certain bands more prominently if their company buys ad space in that media.) Right, finally finished droning on about the charts. I meant to comment on "something in the water". I think you (Sean) meant a certain attitude, a willingness to try out new things. There is a huge disillusionment with the current state of rock/pop music (incorporating indie) amongst teenagers who, possibly quite wisely, see no life or future in the dull re-hashes of styles and re-releases of songs that plague our rock scene. An attitude I've seen a lot of lately is that rock will become like jazz as we approach the next century; it will only appeal to those old enough to know what the reference points are and which rules are being broken. I love Trumans Water as much as the next I-Ler but to "the kids" it means nothing at all. (Whenever I say 'techno' below, I'm using a glib term to describe everything from Terminator Benelux for the club to Brian Eno for the post-club chill out to Aphex Twin for the bedsit reflections.) In the UK, the indie scene is very much gossip/fashion and who's it cool to go and see this week whereas the 'mersh scene has turned into an over- 30's Pringle-jumper Phil Collins sleepathon. Then you have the students who slavishly follow The Levellers (or whoever has sold the most T-shirts recently). All hideous generalisations but that's the way I see it. Techno has established itself and I have criminally ignored it along with most other people, hoping it would go away if we did nothing about it. Time for a change. As the old saying goes, free your mind and your ass will follow. "Rave" culture, or ambient, or techno have all been drugs-led. Good music that sounds excellent on drugs. It's hardly love, peace and understanding but I get the sense that something is happening and techno is its soundtrack much as Jimi Hendrix (or whoever) was for the hippy movement. People have had enough of the crap force-fed them by "the authorities" from all walks of life - INCLUDING the record industry. Witness the explosion in the number of travellers and the hysterical Government reaction to them. Witness the number of "ordinary kids" doing drugs and living to dance. This sounds like politics but only in the way that choosing what you wear or how you cut your hair is politics. Of course, it could all be a massive dupe to keep "the kids" stoned and not cause any trouble but it's an effing dangerous one if that's the case. Whatever comes of the techno revolution, I just hope we don't see history repeating itself as tragedy, or worse farce. My view of where the hippies went wrong was to completely ignore established wisdom. When the movement started it was full of Eastern mysticism which seemed to get dropped in favour of easy-to-swallow and badly-thought-out platitudes. If the people who make the techno records - and that's a very large group - can draw from more unusual sources, e.g. indie rock!, they can keep this thing going. I for one have run out of steam for the moment, probably just as well! (back to the fray after a refreshing glass of pop :-) >There is a different musical culture between the US and Europe - and >(...) Hip-hop and dance music do not usually >translate well to the live stage, and this is unfortunate. Ambient music >is even further removed from live performance (most of the time) and thus >faces the same problems. Rock stars are the performers, the idols, the ones in the spotlight, the ones on the cover of Rolling Stone. Techno stars are the audience, the dancers, the ones who drop the drugs, the ones who people take the photos of. I'm not talking about PAs where D:Ream or whoever lip-sync badly to 3 songs then bugger off, but the clubs where you've never heard the records before or they're all remixed to hell and back. I wouldn't say that for rock music, there is much difference in live vs. recorded attitude between the UK and USA although I do get the impression that a US audience likes to see a band "earn its stripes" by touring for a few years before they have the "right" to become successful. Here, we're more into thrill seeking - seeing the latest and the greatest just for the sake of it, perhaps ignoring some very excellent and/or established performers along the way. It's one of my worse traits being defensive but I find it necessary on a text medium like the Internet so I'll stress this is my own opinion and I'm not out to brand everyone with the same stereotype. To summarise, the record industry has committed suicide and pop has eaten itself. The kids want nothing of it. (I hope I've avoided the pitfalls of comparing alike with non-alike above and I hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I did typing it. Phew!) --James Nash <ccx020@raven.cov.ac.uk) The only good rock star is a dead one &&&&&&&&&& From: "Harris, Terry J." <HARRISTJ@f1groups.fsd.jhuapl.edu> Subject: Alex Chilton and Ben Vaughn in DC One great thing about Baltimore is that DC is a kinda cool suburb. Saw godfather-of-indie, Alex Chilton with Ben Vaughn at the Birchmere in Alexandria Wednesday night, and still made it back to Charm City to see the Archers of Loaf at our own Karaoke Bar. I hadn't seen Ben Vaughn in a couple of years so it was a pleasant surprise to see him open for Alex Chilton. Kind of an appropriate pairing too, I thought. Vaughn played solo, accompanied by his guitar and, on about half of the songs, pre-recorded drums and stuff. Normally, I don't care for play-along-with-the-tape-machine live performance, but Vaughn made sure that he didn't take it seriously enough to be seriously annoying. He played about half cover songs and half originals, including several of his classics. (I don't know that these are the exact song titles, but fans will recognize "I'm Sorry (but So's Brenda Lee)", "Growing A Beard," and my favorite, "She's Your Problem Now") He said he is releasing (um, has released?) an album of covers on Bar None that he said he recorded in his basement for $140. Said Vaughn, "I've got 30 of my own songs I haven't recorded and I do an album of covers...I never was too good about career moves." Alex Chilton has always had sort of a booze-and-cigarette pallor, but Wednesday night he looked rather healthy -- bordering perhaps on glowing. It's been more than a year since I've seen him last, and maybe I was too far away, but he looked as healthy as I've ever seen him. Plus, he had a snappy red glittery jacket and a stylin' new hair-do. Chilton, as usual, was backed by drums and bass -- same bass player as the last several tours, but a new drummer. Chilton played a fairly short set not unlike anything he's done around here for say five years or so. No songs that I hadn't heard him do before. One or two Big Star songs, but mostly the lounge-y blues-y stuff he's been doing for some time. He opened with Ti Ni Nee Ni Noo, for example, and did his Italian Elvis cover. No "Rock Hard," no Box Tops and oddly, no encore. Great set nonetheless. Now, I've been a fan for a long time, and consider Chilton one of the most important figures in modern popular music. But, I'm also a fan of his recent bad-attitude lounge singer material too. (I think it's fun.) Unfortunately however, I think his audience is there anymore because they want to see a cult figure/novelty act. From his moderately disinterested stage presence the other night, I think Chilton recognizes it but I'm not sure he's quite comfortable with the idea. I'll keep going to see him until he starts playing along. It's just that I saw him at DC's Roxy (six or seven?) years ago, playing to a handful of us. Somebody called out a fairly obscure request ("Big Bird") and he said, "Hey, that would be a kick....Yeah, that would be a kick right now." He flicked his cigarette into the audience and played it, continuing an exuberant and dangerous set. I kept thinking the other night that he ought to flick a cigarette into this sit-down Birchmere audience. (P.S. Not the point of the posting to this list, but as an added bonus, Chilton's fairly early departure meant that I caught the Archers of Loaf set in Baltimore's semi-bizarre Karaoke Bar. Anyway, I thought they were great live. The newer stuff (that I hadn't heard before) was pretty loose and pretty good, and the songs off the album were simply incendiary.) terry_harris@jhuapl.edu &&&&&&&&& From: "HUGHES, SAMUEL" <M281%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu> Losing one's religion Humbly, I submit my first Indie-List spiel... Today I saw a blurb in Guitar Player magazine about the Jesus Lizard. I can only hope that they don't eventually go mainstream - we've all felt that betrayal too many times... Nirvana, Soundgarden, Tad, Helmet, Mudhoney, Dino Jr, all turned to meaningless crap by the entertainment industry and the Lollapalosers, eager for something new to suck the life out of... Now Matador is distributed by Atlantic and it's just a matter of time before we see Unsane selling troll dolls to pubescent alternateens on MTV. The innocence is nearly gone. That which was once underground has been unearthed and left to putrify in the sun by the bulldozers of greedy capitalists who know not what they do... I swear if I ever see Rein Sanction on MTV I'll destroy every last album I own and quit listening to music forever. Sam Hughes M281@NEMOUS &&&&&&&&&&& From: Jonathan Haynes <haynesj@elwha.evergreen.edu> Mary Lou Lord at the Capitol Theater Backstage, Olympia, WA. One of the last Saturday nights in January, 1994 Torrey and I got there later than we had planned. We arrived to see many of the stylishly bored patrons filing out of the place, and entered as the last echoes died. Torrey says, "Isn't that the Spinanes' drummer? Hey, and those are his drums. Did the Spinanes play--and we stayed too late at the party?" I didn't know--Torrey saw them in Seattle (the Spinanes) and raved ever since. When he and I go out to see music, we usually hang by the edge and try to see everything. Not being in the scene: not having the right glasses, 70's-wear, bowl-cut or Campbell's Soup girl hair, not sitting the right way, sometimes it feels strange to hang out in the middle of everybody. You start to get the idea you're a sociologist who's sort of conducting a study of the show, instead of being a person hanging out to hear music. I had these stupid cowboy boots on--and I knew they'd be spurned. I guess I worry too much about it. So there's these two guys standing there. Iowans from a farm, coming to another punk show. We always do this. Mary Lou was distracted. When she played it was great. The guitar had a boing-boing sound to the strings, and the loose capo made it sound like a sitar sometimes. Mary Lou kept saying how much she was uncomfortable and how much Oly freaked her out and how she'd be so much better off if her friend would come up and play too and how nervous she was. She does this little bend in one song that shows she really knows how to play. That's one thing--the guitar was really good. I think she must have really strong hands--what, she played in the street and subway in Boston, right? This set was some of her songs and a lot of covers. Dylan, Shawn Colvin, and Richard Thompson--she played "1952 Vincent Black Lightning" really well, with about half the verses left out. Maybe it's the tunings. Mary Lou uses some alternate tunings that make things sound interesting. Her voice sounds like Suzanne Vega and Pebbles from The Flintstones. I wondered how that scratchy goo-be-goo-be-doo-be voice could project out in the Boston subway... She talked about Joni Mitchell, just saying "Joni" with such familiarity, like they were really close--maybe they are! I knew something was wrong, something missing The real ruckus was over down the block at Vertigo--that grrroovy singer from Bratmobile was there, so I knew this was the real scene epicenter for the night. Kinda like when I lived in Minneapolis--if Bob Mould was at the show, it was the cool place to be. Mark Arm was sorta the reference point for that in Seattle. The band that was playing was set up in the classic Riot Grrrl/Boy way: everybody looking thirteen and doing it for the first time. We had missed the boat, because it was the last song. Too bad. &&&&&&&&&&&& From: 6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Leonard Nevarez) Royal Trux: on record, live @ Jabberjaw With this submission, I end my six month lurk on the Indie-List Digest, and let me tell you, it's good to walk in the sun with everyone else. I guess I've put off writing for the I-L because sometimes I feel like such an old guy when I read the Indie-List Digest; like Lena, I go way back with "independent music", having also seen Husker Du in 1985 (with Faith No More and Camper Van Beethoven opening). However, I now have a mission: to address the absence of discussion about Royal Trux. I can't recall reading anyone cite this band's most recent album, __Cats And Dogs__, as one of 93's best independent releases, which IMHO it surely was. In fact, let me begin with a review of this fine album. Royal Trux, __Cats And Dogs__ (Drag City Records) Having never before heard this band, I must say I was immediately impressed with this album the first time I heard it. It's most revealing when you consider it as a legacy of Pussy Galore; I think of how that band's obnoxious guitar/drum/no-bass racket splintered off into the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion's frenetic groove-mojo deconstruction and guitarist Neil Hagerty's narcotic rock rapture on this most recent album (Somehow, Julia Cafritz's work with Kitten fits into this scheme -- anyone care to venture a guess?). The instrumentation here is still the same as Pussy Galore's (i.e., no bass), but Royal Trux takes that premise into new directions, starting off with the ballad-like (!) opener "Teeth". The other thing you notice early on is how developed the songwriting on __Cats and Dogs__ is in comparison to anything Pussy Galore or the Blues Explosion has ever done. Both "Teeth" and "Turn of the Century" are truly moving pieces, especially with the latter's use of piano and slide guitar; they also feature the most sublime guitar noodling I've heard since Meat Puppets _II_ (think of "We're Here" and "Aurora Borealis"). "The Spectre" is so hummable, it could easily be a campfire sing-along at a drug rehab retreat. Of course, __Cats and Dogs__ rocks out mightily, particularly on "The Flag", "Skywood Greenback Mantra" and "Hot and Cold Skulls". And then there's the vocals! If you have never heard the "unique" harmonies of Hagerty and Jennifer Herrema, rest assured: this ain't no Sonny and Cher. I like to think they sound like a washed-up singing duo one might hear at a piano lounge in Las Vegas, especially considering how tortured Herrema's tonsils sound. Although they share lead vocals throughout most of the album, Herrema and Hagerty never quite get it in synch with each other -- did they record their vocals in separate rooms without listening to each other? -- which gives the album its particularly disembodied feel. As I said, for me __Cats And Dogs__ easily ranks as one of 93's top independent releases. Royal Trux, Kicking Giant, Tattletale, and Canopy at Jabberjaw, Los Angeles, 1/28/94: Obviously I was more than willing to make the 2-and-a-half hour trek from Santa Barbara to Los Angeles (an hour more than it usually takes, thanks to the earthquake's devastation of many part's of LA's freeway system) to check out Royal Trux, especially since I would finally be able to catch soon-to-be-local-legends (and, yes, personal friends of mine) Canopy at their stomping grounds, Jabberjaw. I've already let on my bias about Canopy; let me just add that tonight they made a glorious din with guitarist Ajay's blazing-yet-poppy sound, bassist/vocalist Gabby's plodding rhythm and monotone vocals (a complement!), and soon-to-be-the-next-Georgia-Hubley drummer Tonya's characteristic back-to-basic work on the drumkit. Extra ego-boost: They even got requests for "Bunny Love" off their first (and only) single (on Sourpower Records, which they split with Seesaw). Seattle's Tattletale were next with a big mood change for the evening which they made boldly nevertheless: two women singing and playing acoustic guitar, minimal stand-up drumkit, and/or cello. Apparently Tattletale is used to playing completely unamplified (their drums were even muffled by draping shirts over the heads), and they were a little nonplussed by Jabberjaw's quite electric atmosphere. Things were not helped at all by the rude drunk heckling them, which was too bad considering how unrepresentative he was of the audience (Jabberjaw doesn't even sell alcohol). Nevertheless, Tattletale were often able to recreate their intimate, acoustic atmosphere; when they couldn't, they unfortunately came off as a little too precious, especially with their high-pitched, sometime-strained harmonies. From Olympia came Kicking Giant, who recently received a glowing review here from Sean Murphy. Despite this, they raised a nagging question that was started with Tattletale: What hath Beat Happening wrought? If you're unfamiliar with Kicking Giant, they're one of those guitar-and-minimal-drums duos that Olympia seems to specialize in. Of course, I may be unfair in this generalization, since surely not everyone with a guitar, a snare drum, a floor tom and a cymbal sounds like Beat Happening -- to which I merely point out how Kicking Giant sounds a lot more like Beat Happening than, say, House of Freaks (does anyone remember them?). When the sound clicks, then the combo works as well as -- and, more importantly, differently than -- a "regular" rock ensemble does. However, when the sound doesn't click (and here I'd have to say Kicking Giant were about 50-50), then I'm just unsatisfied. The proceedings were livened up with a brief foray into "wordcore" with Kill Rock Stars spoken word performer Sue Fox, and then Kicking Giant were out of there. Before they were finally plugged in and ready to play, I could tell that my expectations of Royal Trux were misplaced, as the stage had been set up for two guitars, bass (!), drums, and various percussion (!!). Altogether six Royal Truxers hit the stage and launched into a radically re-worked "Hot and Cold Skulls": some riffs were deleted, Herrema sang alone, and the bass and percussion turned the number into quite a different song. Of course, Herrema cut quite an imposing figure: at least six feet tall (and 90 pounds, by a friend's guess), wearing a cowboy hat that virtually covered her eyes, this ridiculous belt that's covered with studs and a _huge_ buckle (the impression is of a wrestling championship belt), and a wide array of leather bracelets with studs which made me think of the guitarist from Slayer with his armband o' needles. She barked -- nay, croaked -- her parts out with such gusto and lit a seemingly endless number of cigarettes that I calculated she must be up to three packs a day. The band did an hour-long set of seven songs, including the final number that lasted over 20 minutes, in which the drummer and percussionist switched instruments (we called the number "Santana Jam" for the lack of not knowing otherwise) and which ended in an endless, rather indulgent guitar jam. Ajay from Canopy told me after talking to the second guitarist from Royal Trux that the occasion for the band's four date tour of southern California was because DGC Records was footing the bill, paying for the band's flight out to the west coast and back. Apparently the band's indie status is just about up, probably due to Spin's recent favorable coverage than to record sales, but I wonder what the A&R lackeys thought that night as they had expected a difficult, dislocated rock noise and instead received something that often sounded like a two-bit funk/groove bar band. I too was a little disappointed, especially with the inclusion of the bass guitar used to such simplistic, "groovy" effect; after all, wasn't the lesson of Pussy Galore (and __Cats And Dogs__) that bass was irrelevant? In fairness to Royal Trux, you also have to consider how the band insists on change -- in musicians, instrumentation, song arrangement -- and in that respect, the band that records their next record (on either Drag City or DGC) will have probably have gelled from the rather unsure ensemble it was tonight (characterized by the end of the set, where "Santana Jam" ended with a whimpering halt, the musicians turned to each other to discuss what went wrong with the number, and the audience was left to figure out eventually, "Oh, I guess they're done."). Their willingness to take chances and radically alter everything about them is what makes them Royal Trux, and finally my disappointment was tempered with admiration. Leonard Nevarez 6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu &&&&&&&&&& From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) Unrest/Versus/Swarays Live Gabe's Iowa City 1/29/94 Well, since I'm an old fart (as old as Robert Poss, for example) I don't get out much any more, but I was moved to Stay Up Past My Bedtime to go see Unrest. For those of you who've not yet ventured to the frozen wastes of Iowa, Gabe's Oasis is a grotty shoebox-shaped room that has been the site of many a great show over the past 25 years or so, given it's strategic location as a sort-of midpoint between Cabaret Metro in Chicago and First Avenue in Minneapolis. The opener, Swarays, are a local combo fronted by Doug Roberson, who not only writes great pop songs & plays great guitar, but he books the shows at Gabe's. He turned in a decent set of his usually great songs, but his low key delivery failed to spark much interest in the crowd. Doug's been working for years in undeserved obscurity -- If you can find any Dangtrippers records in the used bin, snatch them up and make yourself cool. Versus is a band that had a great buzz preceding them, and for me they were a real revelation. They have been compared to Pavement, but I think the only real thing they share is electric instruments and a lead singer with a deadpan baritone. But for me, they had precisely the right mix of great songwriting, and energetic delivery. I bought their E.P. "Let's Electrify" at the show, and every song on it is a winner. (Versus is on Remora - 272 E. 3rd #1 NYC 10009). Their live performance was focused and intense, a real festival of interesting guitar voicings. Unrest were just too cute for words. Mark Robinson's songs are, as we all well know, dreams of a perfect pop world. But Bridget IS the girl next door, and Phil has that young Gerard Depardeiu thing going. But what Robinson really has going for him is that he apparently never listened to Jimi Hendrix or Sonic Youth or the Velvet Underground. The territory he explores musically is contained in the Mel Bay Guitar method book -- all those pure, ringing jazz chords everyone else thinks sound too twee. He captures that endless teen moment of strumming your first guitar over and over again when you've found the Perfect Chord. The strangest moment of the show came for me came between songs in the first encore. You've always heard about people thinking they've caught the eye of the performer and that they're talking just to you? Well, I was standing about 3 people back from the monitors and of a sudden Mark says "You!" and points to me. I look around, and I'm the only person he could be pointing to. So I yell "what?!" The he intones "You go in the cage. The cage goes in the water. The Sharks are in the water." Then they rip into "Skinhead Girl," which evoked much spirited moshing. Bruce, the local Warner/A&M/4AD dude was at the show and had some interesting observations and tidbits: 1. At the Champaign, IL show the crowd got so excited after a 50 minute set, that Unrest played for another solid hour, and only stopped when the club brought up the lights. 2. The JayHawks are in the studio recording a new album. They flew to L.A. on a sunday night to begin, and the next morning was an earthquake. 3. He's all hot about a guy from LA who calls himself 'Beck' who he described as 'Bob Dylan singing through a pitch shifter.' Apparently the guy has about 3 albums worth of cool stuff in the can, and he thought he was going to be 'huge.' Any indie-listers hear of this guy? &&&&&&&&&&& From: unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu (Ray Shea) What I Did With My Money In 93 (The New Stuff) I figure if people can start posting their "Best of 93" lists before Thanksgiving, then its OK if I'm late as long as I manage to get mine out sometime before Mardi Gras. [Hey! You even beat Chinese New Year! - Lena.] Here we've got seven albums: 1) that came out in 1993, 2) that I think are cool enough that I actually get them out and listen to them long after buying them, and 3) that I feel like I can actually come up with a paragraph or so of moderately interesting (to me) prose that vaguely relates in some way to the music. A couple of these reviews you might have already seen a few months ago, but I didn't want to have to come up with something completely different to say about them now that they're on my list. ---------- Big Boys -- The Skinny Elvis (Touch & Go) Combines the "Frat Cars" 7" EP, _Industry Standard_, and their half of the _Live At Raul's_ split disk with the Dicks, all of which have been impossible to find for years now, although I did see the Raul's one at Record Exchange in Houston five years ago for what I'd now consider a reasonable price. The early stuff is for the most part pre-funk, more punk, sounds at times like the Embarassment, if you can believe that, or even old New Order, thanks to known ex-Peter-Hook-wannabe Chris Gates' passion for Joy Division (a passion I happened to share during the Big Boys heyday). If you've never heard these guys, I'd suggest picking up the second disk, _The Fat Elvis_, first, since it is here, on their version of "Hollywood Swingin'", and on _Lullabies Help The Brain Grow_ that punk-funk was born (which, yes, was a good thing, current wankiness of people like the Chili Peppers not-withstanding). To really appreciate the Big Boys, you have to have piled onto the stage with them and a hundred other people to sing "Hollywood Swingin'" and actually seen with your own eyes the entire flannel-clad audience of skate-punks trying to shake their butts instead of stage dive for a while. Ian MacKaye describes having the Big Boys open for Minor Threat in 1982 in the liner notes: "I felt humiliated, how could we play after this? The Big Boys pulled out all the stops. More enormous men, decorated jump suits, food props, great songs, a horn section, 200 friends on stage singing and dancing...we were fucked." I saw the Big Boys open for X in 1983...same thing. I saw them open for the UK Subs in 1984...same thing. Hell, half the people went back out to the parking lot to drink beer during the Subs set, because for them, the Big Boys were always the headliner, no matter how many bands played after them. So for those of you who weren't there, you get these two disks, which in comparison is probably not very much, but at least it's something. ---------- George Clinton -- Hey Man...Smell My Finger (Paisley Park) Figures that Clinton would do what everybody else has been trying to do for the last 7 years or so, and do it better: that is, lift some samples from his own shit and kick major butt with it. This one finds Dr. Funkenstein rejuvenated by a few years of touring with the P-Funk All-Stars, strong enough to avoid the suffocating Prince influence that clouded _The Cinderella Theory_, and back with the hugest collection of P-Funk alums and young P-Funk wannabes to ever grace a studio: Maceo & Fred, Gary Shider, Bootsy, Mudbone, Catfish, Grady Thomas, Bernie Worrell, along with Ice Cube, Yo-Yo, Humpty, Anthony Kiedis, Bill Laswell, Robert Musso, Flea, N'Dea Davenport, Dr. Dre, Herbie Hancock, the list goes on and on and then on some more. The message is political, Chocolate City & Maggot Brain squeezed through nineties-style hip-hop outrage. Single best rap song of the year is "Rhythm & Rhyme", in which GC proves that he can out-fucking-rap any little poseur gangsta-wuss that wants to take him on, spewing complex Last Poets-style lyricism with the force of Chuck D. I mean, really. ---------- Steve Lacy 6 -- We See (hat Art) I have this big problem reviewing jazz recordings. In the grand scheme of things, I haven't been listening to jazz all that long; less than 4 years, really, since I first had a jazz album really click, where I said "oh, I GET IT now" (album in question was _Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus_, for those of you that were wondering). And so whenever I try to describe what I'm hearing in a jazz recording, I run up against that "dancing about architecture" thingy again...I want to avoid the trite silliness and overly analytical pomposity that infests most jazz liner notes, yet I don't have a long history of emotional experiences or anecdotes related to jazz on which to base my opinions...so what to write? My bucket of ten-dollar words is so much smaller than Mr. Taylor's, so I find myself repeating hackneyed old reviewer expressions and then deleting them. I could recite the cold hard facts, that this is not Mr. Lacy's first recording of all Monk tunes, that this is not the same line-up of instruments that you would find normally with either Lacy's sextet or most of Monk's recordings (the absence of a piano is a dead giveaway, I think you'd agree). I could tell you that this is my first Lacy album, that the show put on in Austin last March by this soprano player's sextet was one of only two jazz shows I saw this year, and that it was the best show of any kind I have seen for the past several years. And I could make up lots of colorful expressions which sound good at the time I write them and painfully awkward tomorrow, none of which will really convey any information to anyone who hasn't already heard the music. In five years, I may have more of a grasp on Monk, I may have more of a grasp on Lacy, and I can talk about this album at length. Or maybe it will take ten years. Or maybe I will never really understand this music on anything more than a gut-instinct level...which is really all that is necessary, when you get right down to it. It boils down to this: if you have heard Monk, you will like this album, and if you have heard Lacy, you will like this album, and if you have not heard either, or both, you are suffering a particularly cruel form of deprivation. ---------- Mad Professor -- Dub Maniacs On The Rampage (Ariwa) Mad Professor -- The Lost Scrolls Of Moses (Ariwa) The man is a fucking nutball. 1993 being the year I bought more dub albums than any other kind, including the likes of Lee Perry, Scientist, and African Head Charge, you'd think it might all start to sound the same. I mean, how much can you do when you lop out everything in the song except the bass and drums and drop samples & FX on top of them? To answer that question, you need to listen to Mad Professor. When people speak of Dub, really spacey freaky out-there dub, this is what they mean; put this through your headphones and you will understand. This music is from Mars. Literally. I think that of the two I prefer _Dub Maniacs..._ (which actually came out in late 92), but that's probably because I have such weird memories associated with _Lost Scrolls Of Moses_, mainly because the first time I listened to it was the day I found out I was gonna be a daddy, and I spent an afternoon sitting by myself in a ratty apartment in the Mission district in SF listening to this and pondering my predicament. Assuming you aren't carting around the same emotional baggage as I am, you could choose either one of these for starters, but eventually you'll want both. ---------- Sebadoh -- Bubble & Scrape (Sub Pop) Sebadoh is basically 3 guys: Lou, Eric, and Jason. Their earlier recordings were mainly home-recorded songs of pain and alienation and what-not, cut up in an anarchic mush of cassette bits and found sounds and noises... and somewhere in the mess were some brilliant, touching songs. Lately they've been acting more like a band, recording with more standard guitar/drum/bass combinations, so it's easier to pick through and figure out what you like and don't like about them...but it wasn't til recently that someone pointed out to me why some Sebadoh songs seem so fucking brilliant and perfect, and some just either leave me flat or are outright annoying; you just need to check the songwriting credits. Lou Barlow writes painfully personal songs about lost love and despair and masturbation; these are songs that can't help but affect you. Eric Gaffney's material, on the other hand, always strikes me as some kind of Mudhoney parody...they just go in one ear and out the other. So I tried experimenting with the programming feature on the CD player, leaving in only Lou's songs and a few of Jason's (did I mention Jason? he's got some good stuff too, most of the time, but he doesn't fit into my thesis, so bear with me), and leaving out all of Eric's stuff. And guess what? It's not as good. The album is missing something. Even though I can't say that I enjoy Eric's songs, they are strangely necessary. They're like this weird counterpoint, a brash foil to Lou's more profound work, and without them the album is incomplete, like figure without ground. Don't ask me to explain it, I can't. It's just one of those things that makes this disk so good. ---------- Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (Matador) Spencer is guitarist & founding member of Pussy Galore and Boss Hog, two bands which most people consider to be essential late 80's noisy sludgecore, but which I've always thought were way way overrated, despite the obvious physical attractiveness of Spencer and band-mate whatsername. Pussy Galore's best two efforts, in my own opinion, were both covers: Neubauten's "Yu Gung", which was better than the original, and Black Flag's "Damaged", which was at least loads more fun than anything the Rollins Band ever did. But Pussy Galore was around when I was going through my anti-rock-shit phase, which started in 1988 or so when I started listening to lots of rap and jazz, and really didn't end until sometime last year. So I was completely overwhelmed by the Blues Explosion. This was what the Cramps or the Gun Club must have been like once, tortured psycho-rockabilly with a honestly swampy bottom end throb. Like Billy Childish before him, JSBE has managed to make something that almost feels retro without actually sounding at all retro...they've tapped into some primal force, enlisted the beast that surfaced in the Stax studios and spoke to the maggot-infested minds that brought us the first few Funkadelic albums, while creating something that could not have been made without Scratch Acid and the Butthole Surfers and Foetus giving them a decade of noise in which they could ground it. The woman at the record store called it "punk blaxploitation" when I bought it, and I can't really think of anything better to call it. The Blues Explosion has got It...whatever the fuck It is. [As Chris/Tine said, "Jon Spencer gots Elvis in his pants."] ---------- Uncle Tupelo -- Anodyne (Sire/Reprise) What makes Uncle Tupelo great is the way they manage to honor their influences without aping them. Their folk heroes include Leadbelly and D. Boon, Woody Guthrie and the Soft Boys. This, their major label debut, made me kind nervous before I heard it. I'd been a huge fan of theirs ever since seeing them at Liberty Lunch during SxSW in Austin (before I knew I would end up actually living here) right around the time their first LP _No Depression_ came out. That album and the followup, _Still Feel Gone_, were classic vaguely country-sounding rockers in the tradition of Green on Red, the True Believers, Doctors Mob, and all that roots rock New Sincerity stuff from Austin that was supposed to take over the world back in 1985 and for some reason never did. The next Tupelo album, _March 16-20, 1992_, was all acoustic, traditional workingman's folk songs...the kind of stuff you normally associate with miners strikes, Grapes of Wrath, union busting, all that. It was nice, I could appreciate it for what it was, but it didn't kick me in that part of my brain like the old Tupelo. So I was a little worried... were they gonna be too folky?...were they gonna do what the Replacements did they they signed to Sire (i.e., suck)? Fortunately for me, they did none of that. Instead, they pulled a Neil Young. They improved. They matured. And they still rock. They got back their raucous roots, kept the country, kept the pedal steel, the protest songs, the truly fine songwriting, and they still rock. And...the old stuff. Since the majority of music I bought this year wasn't actually released in 93 (its stands to reason, there's just too much old music out there I haven't had the time to listen to yet), it seems only fair that I also give you a list of old music that I bought in 93 that seems really fucking important. A couple of these reviews you might have already seen a few months ago, but I didn't want to have to come up with something completely different to say about them now that they're on my list. ---------- Boiled In Lead -- Old Lead (Omnium, 1991) A reissue of the first two albums, _Boiled In Lead_ (1985) and Hotheads (1987). This group does for Celtic folk music what Brave Combo has done for polkas, running all manner of Scottish ditties and Irish reels through their slightly twisted post-punk aesthetic. The liner notes contain sources for each tune, with descriptions like "A gnarly version of a reel from the repertoire of the Castle Ceili Band also heard in sessions" or "Gypsy Rover: In this high-fidelity recording, we administer the Atomic Drop to this pub standard, with the help of the Magnatone Chorus and EFX by Mitch". Treatments range from the very traditional to the very grungy, a Gaelic mosh pit where you never know who will be knocking you down next, the Chieftains, the Pogues, or Tupelo Chain Sex...I really really like these guys. ---------- Knox, Chris -- Croaker (Flying Nun, 1991) Knox, Chris -- Seizure (Flying Nun, 1990) Solo stuff from the man behind Flying Nun mainstay Tall Dwarfs (finally found it on CD, after years of looking). Personally I prefer this stuff to the Tall Dwarfs material anyway...it gives you Knox's lunacy in a purer form. For those of you who haven't heard him or the Dwarfs before, a good frame of reference would probably be early solo Robyn Hitchcock. A very sparse, stripped down sound, all electric guitar and drum machine, with lyrics that throw around ideas about insanity and sexuality in a manner that seems really convoluted, inside-out compared to the way most people think about these things. Difference between Knox & Hitchcock is Hitchcock always sounds too cute, like he's in on some joke that you're not hip to...whereas with Knox, you get this creepy feeling that there is no joke involved, that despite how weird and comical it is, that he's serious, that he really thinks this way. [NOTE: These 2 CDs were reissued in the US on the Communion label as "Meat" (which has most of Seizure and Croaker) and a 10" EP "Not Given Lightly" (which has the 6 songs that were left off of "Meat" plus a slight remix of "Not Given Lightly"). - Lena] ---------- The Complete Stax/Volt Singles (Atlantic, 1991) Since you've probably already heard all about this collection, I can be brief. Nine discs, probably almost fourteen hours of pure stinky Memphis soul. Rufus Thomas, Booker T., Isaac Hayes, Otis Redding...this music has been the launching point for everything from the Blues Brothers to Parliament to the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. Really fucking indispensable. ---------- Martin Denny -- Exotica (The Best of Martin Denny) (Rhino, 1990) Tiki room music from hell. Summons up visions of palm trees, beaches, vacuously smiling babes in grass skirts, and Mr. Howell at the table by the piano in his white shoes, stirring his big pink girl drink with a plastic flamingo while Mrs. Howell tries to find the pu-pu platter on the menu...in "SPECTRA-SONIC-SOUND...the ultimate in hi-fidelity". It's amazing that this music can be so exotic, and yet still retain it's inherent Whiteness. ---------- The Pogues -- Rum, Sodomy, & The Lash (WEA/Stiff, 1985) A few pints of Guinness and this disc and I get this insane urge to go berserk and break furniture. (That would be my father's father's side speaking, I think.) Irish folk music has always had the potential to be as drunken and raucous as punk rock, but in practice, it always seems to fall short. I think part of that problem, at least in this country, is that Irish music always attracts a large contingent of hippie computer nerds and folk-geeks who still think quoting _The Hobbit_ at each other is a great way to spend a Saturday night and who are perfectly happy with whimsical Clancy Brothers ditties and other quaint acoustic music of the Old Country... whereas everyone I know who is actually from Ireland prefers their native music to lean toward the Stiff Little Fingers variety. The magic of the Pogues is that they can merge the two...traditional Irish punk rock, dammit! Rabid romper stompers about beer and whiskey and revolution and some girl you met long ago, and no wussy charming ditties about the "Auld Sod". No matter if you think they suck now, when this album came out, they were definitely the shit. [I thought this motherfucker was out of print! A true classic! - Lena] ---------- Rova Saxophone Quartet -- Saxophone Diplomacy (hat ART, 1990) "Subversive" music, recorded on Rova's tour of the Soviet bloc in 1983, at the height of the Reagan-era Cold War. Four saxophones of various sizes and shapes, producing something that is almost like jazz, almost like classical woodwind quintet, almost like geese being electrocuted. I'm reminded at times of Albert Ayler, who improvised tenor madness around regimented Sousa-like marches, at times of Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, the so-called "rocking chamber orchestra"...the whole mess reminds for some reason of weird architecture...something about the way it seems like you can see between the notes, the way it's so structured but so confusing at the same time; don't ask me to explain that further, it's an analogy that'd probably crumble if you stared at it too long. ---------- Thirteenth Floor Elevators -- Easter Everywhere (International Artists) Roky Erickson & The Aliens -- The Evil One (Restless, 1981) Not long after I bought _Easter Everywhere_ last spring, I had about one of the most perfect moments a person can have. My friend Ron was in town from San Francisco, and of course we're trying to show him as much Texas-ness as we can fit into a 5 day visit. We drove down to Driftwood, about 30 minutes southwest of Austin, to feast at the Salt Lick, a giant old barn of a BBQ place, where for 7 or 8 bucks you sit yourself down at a wooden picnic table and they bring you platters of ribs & sausage & beef until you explode...plus it's a dry county, so you get to bring in your own beer of choice. We feasted on dead flesh and Celis Pale Bock while outside a monstrous April thunderstorm raged. We made our way back home after dark, ended up sprawled on the front porch trying to digest, I put on the Elevators CD, and we sat there and finished the Celis and watched the lightning as the storm moved off to the south. The music and the rain and the trees and the beer just synched up, there was this eeriness to the whole scene that I've only ever felt in Texas, like for a little while you could understand the special kind of madness that grows around here. Roky's voice echoed in from some East Texas forest, and the electric jug became one with the sound of the rain that occasionally blew in under the porch roof. It was something that approached a psychedelic experience, without the drugs, of being in some other time or place. Ever since then I have been fascinated by Roky Erickson. This guy led the premier band of the Texas psychedelic scene, a scene in which the 60's explorations that one normally associates with San Francisco took place in the midst of one of the most conservative cultures in the country. The man's life has been a long odyssey of mental health facilities and brilliant albums, worshipped as a cult hero while at the same time unable to play a set of more than three songs before becoming confused and intimidated by the audience and wandering offstage. His songs on _The Evil One_ are populated by ghosts and demons, horror scenarios that seem to be a little more real to him than they should be. He possesses that certain charisma possessed only by the mentally unbalanced. Last spring Roky started coming out after a long period out of the public eye. I saw him at a party in the park, standing off to the side drinking a beer with a couple of musician friends; he looked like a kind old man, his mane streaked with grey...but there was a look in his eye, a nervousness, that was...I don't know, not chilling, just, well, eerie, like Charles Manson without the evil. A couple of weeks later Roky played a short set at a benefit at Antone's. Three songs: "Don't Slander Me" & "Starry Eyes" he pulled off brilliantly, then during "You're Gonna Miss Me" he started forgetting the words. Will Sexton kept singing them to him, trying to jog his memory, but Roky couldn't quite catch it. He spent most of the song looking back at Sexton, nodding like he almost had it, then turning to the mike and forgetting, and all the while he was trying to smile, but there was a profound look of sadness and a bit of confusion in his eye. The crowd, of course, went wild. -- Ray Shea "I forget I look like this." UniSQL, Inc. -george clinton unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu DoD#372 : '88 Honda Hawk (borrowed) &&&&&&&&&&&& From: tom_meyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer) Subject: Steve Albini Strikes Again (reprint from Chicago Reader) [Um, we reprint this in an effort to stir some discussion, not just to repeat Sir Albini's words. This is not intended to compete with the Chicago Reader. I wish I had more info about the author of the original article to which Albini's letter replies, but I'm not in Chicago. And the syndrome noted here seems to be fairly common in bigger press outlets - I cringe when I see "indie-rock" reviews in the New York Times 'cause the writers usually don't know jack shit about the music but they sure know how to wank on a keyboard... - Sean] I don't know what you all think of him, but he sure is 'one of the originals'. The letter is in response to a supposed 'Year-In-Review' article in a local paper that basically turned out to be a promo for Liz Phair, Urge Overkill and Smashing Pumpkins. _____________________________________________ Paper : Chicago Reader, Jan 28, 1994 Title : "Three Pandering Sluts and Their Music Press Stooge" Bill Wyman: The opening of you Year-In-Rock recap [Hitsville, January 7] is one of the most brilliant bits of ass-forward thought I've seen in years. If I read your heavily parenthetical English correctly, you are making the case that Liz Phair, Urge Overkill and Smashing Pumpkins are somehow unique in rock music because they are brazenly trying to sell records. Genius. You also intimate that anyone having a gripe about these artists' calculated and overbearing hype barrage is being merely parochial or petty. You dismiss this sort of discussion as "bullshit". Since I like using words like "bullshit," and I am one of the people who sees nothing of value in an of these three artists, I will gladly adopt the term as shorthand for the position you argue against. In your rush to pat these three pandering sluts on the heinie, you miss what has been obvious to the "bullshit" crowd all along: These are not "alternative" artists any more than their historical precursors. They are by, of and for the mainstream. Liz Phair is Rickie Lee Jones (more talked about than heard, a persona completely unrooted in substance and a fucking chore to listen to, Smashing Pumpkins are REO Speedwagon (stylistically appropriate for the current college party scene, but ultimately insignificant) and Urge Overkill are Oingo Boingo (Weiners in suits playing frat party rock, trying to tap a goofy trend that doesn't even exist). You only think they are noteworthy now because some paid publicist has told you they are, and you, fulfilling your obligation as part of the publicity engine that drives the music industry, spurt about them on cue. You attempt tp validate you lionizing these frauds by referring to other music critics, after owning up to the reality that these artists don't get much respect from anybody else. In their day, their precursors were considered (by tools like you and those you quote) to be the nuts. That nobody gives a shit about them now is evidence that their appeal was temporal, transitory and superficial, and further evidence the tools like you (and them) don't know shit from fat meat. Watching these three artists you moo about prostrate themselves before the altar of publicity these last 12 months has been a source of unrivaled hilarity here in the "bullshit" camp, and seeing them sink into the obscurity they have earned by blowing their promo wads will be equally satisfying. The "bullshit" characterization concluded your argument that the music scene is tiny, and the perspective of other artists, independent record companies, fans and the like are too insignificant to warrant serious consideration. Look at the shoes you're standing in, big nuts. Music press stooges like you tend to believe and repeat what other music press stooges write, reinforcing each other's misconceptions as though the tiny world you guys live in (imagine a world so small!) actually means something to us on the outside. Out here in the world, we have to pay for our records