I'm going nowhere in December... ############################# Indie List Digest! December 8, 1994 Volume 4 Number 12 ############################# wonder woman- riot grrrl or corporate sellout? (sebadoh, versus, bunnybrains, et al.) Mysteries of Life 16 Deluxe, Starfish & etc. at Emo's DF Hermans, Pale Saints, Wedding Present, etc CORRECTION: How to join FallNet ANNOUNCE: Finley Breeze ANNOUNCE: Some WWW pages of interest, Millan and Kenzie's tour. ANNOUNCE: NW2noise WWW Server AD: Great Plains Reunion, 21 December, Staches, Columbus OH ------------------------------ From: dann medin <DLM94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> wonder woman- riot grrrl or corporate sellout? bonjour. just finished reading "nausea" by jean-paul sartre fr my philosophy class & throw my most voracious (duh?) recommendations to those who haven't gotten around to it yet. great stuff. also, thanks to those who have sent me addresses i've lost; i'm still waiting fr a few, so if you haven't gotten a chance, please do try. (bob r., i need that fax no. again!) is it just me, or is this compilation thing (over th last 5 months or so) getting ridiculous? how many good ones can possibly come out @ once? as if those olympia gems weren't enough, simple machines has just released a cd compilation of th working holiday 7"s, w/a limited edition double disc of live tracks by great bands like pitchblende, archers, eggs, & my beloved & sorely missed rodan. as usual, attractive packaging, full of information, nice pictures, & a good price. a tribute to s.m.'s hard work & dedication. there is a little boy in th cpu lab jumping around & making a ruckus & being silly to strangers in here. non sequitor. great jazz disc= charlie kolhase's "good deeds" on accurate. (my favorite indie of jazz labels. black saint is also excellent.) juliana luecking's full-length on kill rock stars gets thumbs up too. happy ex-thanksgivin. bok bok bok. sebadoh, versus, & bunnybrains @ lupos's/providence 10/23... a nice night out. not only was it th 1st time in 3 that we went to see a show in providence & weren't hassled, but th audience- which is usually pretty frustrating- helped contribute to a nice atmosphere that made this show so much fun. (to make up fr our luck, th operation director @ our radio station's car was broken into tuesday @ beck) versus, as usual, was great. they keep on coming up again & again in interviews fr my fanzine as bands' favorite live band. my friend made a funny commentary on ed's drumming that actually seemed accurate. if you don't know, he has a sheer look of determination on his face while he plays, which makes it look like "he's on a mission." you have th right to disagree. oh yeah, i didn't like bunnybrains. they gave me a headache. sebadoh was so relaxed & silly. we sat next to th stage & just relaxed & enjoyed th music & lack of structure/set lists. nice. beck & doorag & lupo's 10/25... shit. this crowd was shit. a packed house of mostly jean-clad fratty boys w/ possessive arms around their girlfriends. a batch of shirtless sweaty smelly guys from lollapallooza & th last metallica show determined to stage dive to even th acoustic only folk tunes. & stinky ladies dressed in black pushing to th front screaming "i love you beck!" sheer & utter hell. doo rag was a pleasent surprise; creative & totally into th music. distorted slide guitars & vocals w/a drummer banging on boxes. they played fr a long time too, which seemed to wear a bit on th crowd of "loser" fans. i mentioned this last year & reaffirm strongly my opinion that beck is a wonderful asset to th music community. i'll leave it @ that. we moved to th side after josh's film was confiscated & we got sick of being hit & fallen on. after th show i got a note to beck about th film thru my friend jay, who played drums fr jchurch a little this summer on tour. (lance is playing guitar fr beck on tour.) they found us outside immediately after th show & told us that beck had thought that th camera had been confiscated & freaked out. in th end, he recovered th exposed film, & even remembered me from last march's boston show w/m.l.lord & that dog. since he was most definitely NOT th asshole, i left w/a bitter taste on my tongue fr mtv & commercial radio. fuckers. steadfast, bunnygrunt, bracket, picasso trigger @ studio 158/ct 10/28... hurrah! my 1st did-it-myself job. steadfast, local jawbreaker/old lookout influencees opened up. they're not bad. not great, but they're 15 years old & already have a 7" & they've got serious potential. keep yr ears opened fr them. bunnygrunt are 3 wonderful & adorable human beings whom i luv w/all my heart. th best thing about them is that their music is just as sweet as they are; altho' th 7" i have is pure cub-iced pop & they carried it over on stage, they also were much heavier than i expected them to be. hefty recommendations, live & on vinyl. if anyone wants th address fr th "standing hampton ep" mail me & i'll get it to you. oh, & they bought me a hot wheels car as a gift. can you beat that fr cute? bracket totally surprised me & th majority of th folks there who knew & luv'd th cd w/their energy & sheer fun rockin. fuck yr $25 green day stadium tickets, see them while they're still on tour (they'll be @ bowler's in worchester friday) & buy their cd fr less. th lp on caroline just came out 4 or 5 months ago & they already have a new one on fat wreck chords due in november, from which most of their live selections spawned. a pop punk dream come true, & nice guys to boot. i had heard horror stories about th infamous picasso trigger before & was a little bit worried, especially when everyone but 8 or 9 folks left after bracket. but fuck 'em. p.t. played hard despite driving all th way from nc that same morning & mixed in th old material w/stuff off th forthcoming ep "t'aint." made me feel real proud & th time i put into it worthwhile. th nu shit is super/seeing them live will also allow you th opportunity to snag one them "picasso trigger sodomized my honor student" bumper stickers that alias didn't want to print. nananananana nanana. bratty punk lives. next time/vitapup, bikini kill (x2), kudgel, & more. clikitat ikatowi demo tape is my nu favorite cassette. archers of loaf, ivy, schroeder, huggy bear, syrup, and much more as well. i'll be airing an interview w/slim moon of kill rock stars pretty soon on my show that you might want to check out as well. email fr info if in th new england area. see you @ th pop festival saturday! oh, if anyone saw th boston bunnygrunt/karate show-boston, please mail me & tell all. smooches, dann. account no.- dlm94001@uconnvm.uconn.edu oh, if anyone has any advice on affordable ways of retaining quality in live fotos fr a photocopied zine, i'd appreciate any advice. thanks. xoxoxoxoxoxo ------------------------------ From: Eric Sinclair <esinclai@indiana.edu> The Mysteries of Life It's unfortunately rare that there's much I feel is coming out of the Bloomington 'scene' that is worth reviewing broadly. Luckily, something wandered into our house recently that stands against that. I finally tracked down and got a copy of the new single Kira b/w Alibi (Egg Records, POB 30253, Indianapolis, IN 46230) from Mysteries of Life, a combo comprised of Freda (formerly of the Blake Babies and Antenna), Jake (formerly of Antenna) and cohort Geraldine providing some delicate cello work to the otherwise standard guitar and drums mix. It's very good stuff indeed. Jake's songwriting evinces the strong personality of John Strohm (leader of Antenna and now leader of Velo-Deluxe), which can be good and bad. It'll cause your songs to take on a rolling underdrone that drives them forward with exultation. It could also, if unchecked, lead to albums of great flatness, with few peaks and valley to propel the listener properly forward. This caveat is not the case here on this single, luckily. The first side has this sound, the jam-drone undercurrent. Had I gotten this 7" sooner, it would make a swell track on a summer mix tape. The b-side is darker and quieter, a nice autumn song about loss and lies. ------------------------------ From: Jill Emery <llje@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu> 16 Deluxe, Starfish & etc. at Emo's --Austin TX 11/25/94 I saw/heard the last 3 songs by Starfish...they're local and bit too rock-n-roll for me, but have a pretty developed sound. 16 Deluxe--Another local band who have recently appeared on the scene and have quickly developed a rather large following. Two guitars, bass & drums and they are being hyped as the next band to come out of Austin into mainstream alternative music. A friend of mine refers to them as the next Smashing Cranberries, but a more appropriate description would be the next Smashing My Bloody Cranberries. The male guitar player does seem to have the Smashing Pumpkins guitar sound & look down pat, while the female guitar player has the more swirling, droning My Bloody Valentine sound going. While extremely derivative, they are also extremely talented and do hold the promise of developing into something really big. They did one Brian Eno cover that was all right and a My Bloody Valentine cover that wasn't so hot, but overall their songs are well executed and wholly enjoyable. The female vocal/guitarist has a great stage presence and when they let loose, the whole band really lets loose. As far as I know there aren't any singles out, but hopefully there will be soon. -Jill ------------------------------ From: Mark Bukovec <markb@microsoft.com> Live reviews: DF Hermans, Pale Saints, Wedding Present, etc. Suddenly, there are tons of good shows in Seattle. I saw all this in the span of about three weeks. Sorry, Mum, I'm not moving back to Pittsburgh just yet. HYPERLUNG--Art school, ahoy: intoned Lizard King vocals, not-one-but-two film screens (I admit, the one with the donuts frying got me hungry), power tools, and firecrackers. Left us all with a sulphur-tinged malaise. Had to gargle with Bushmill's to get it out. TRENCHMOUTH--Upbeat Chicago group, with a heapin' helpin' of ska, funk, reggae, and punk. Hmmm, that sounds like Fishbone, but they don't sound like that. Bizarre vocals that actually work. Could stand to loosen up a bit, but a good show nonetheless. DOG-FACED HERMANS--Like an unending sugarbuzz. Propulsive and relentless, experimentation rooted in a primal punk wail. The lead singer is a surprisingly good horn player. However, I probably admired this more than I dug it. Comprende? SOURMASH--Another forgettable punk rock group. You'll meet one of these guys in a bar one day. Him: "I used to be in a band." You: "Oh, yeah? What band?" Him: "Sourmash." You: "Never heard of 'em." SPELL--L.A. trio: shared vocals between male drummer and female bassist (weak voice here) plus some rather mundane guitar work. Songs coulda been cut in half and it wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference. I smelled record-company money, and the freebie CD singles passed out after the show confirmed that my sniffer's as sharp as ever. THE WEDDING PRESENT--Pop masters. Do yourself a favor. Enjoy. JESSAMINE--This Seattle band's new single "Secret" is wonderful. Distant femme vox over Moog drones kept lively by good drumming and urgent guitar. However, they need more good tunes like this to boost their live act, which aspires to (but falls way short of) a hypnotic effect a la Stereolab. LISA GERMANO--She's gotta great voice, but when you play the singer-songwriter game, yer shit's gotta be a lot smarter than this pap. PALE SAINTS--Fans of moody Brit pop will have this with their tea and crumpets. I enjoyed the darker tunes the best and was adequately charmed by the more uptempo stuff. Not bad at all. DANGER GENS--Seattle trio, vocal duties split between the female guitarist and bassist. Nothing too tricky, but rocks just fine. (Related note: I'm getting wary of these "CD release party" things: the show's always over early and the playing's always a bit subpar. Kinda like being late for a house party: the keg's kicked, the evening's couples have already paired off, and anyone else hanging around is too wasted to bother with.) --M. Bukovec ------------------------------ From: jac15@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu (Jeff Curtis) CORRECTION: How to join FallNet for real! I posted incorrect information about joining FallNet in my post about bands wanted for a Fall cover tape. Here is the long-awaited CORRECT information!! Sorry for any inconveniences and bounced messages! >Send a message to "listproc@gibbs.oit.unc.edu" with >"Subscribe Fall <your address>" as the body of the letter. Thanks JC ------------------------------ From: Sean Murphy <grumpy@access.digex.net> ANNOUNCE: Finley Breeze ANNOUNCEMENT: Finley Breeze (Apologies to all who have already seen a version of this message...) There is a new electronic zine in the works, by the name of _Finley Breeze_. This publication will take the place of the recently deceased Telegraph, continuing in the spirit of open discussion of music beyond record reviews. There's a lot of issues hidden behind the labels and pigeonholes, and this is an opportunity to discuss some of them. The theoretical topic for this issue is "RADIO." Define it as you like, write something, zip it off to me, and I'll include it. It's a one-stop address for subscriptions, submissions, comments, questions, and entries for the ever popular "Coursing Through The Wires" segment: <grumpy@access.digex.net> Issue #1 of FB will be published around December 15, so get crackin, kids. Sean Murphy grumpy@access.digex.net ------------------------------ From: Chris McMahon <libcm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> ANNOUNCE: Some WWW pages of interest, Millan and Kenzie's tour. Millan & Kenzie, The Most Peculiar Acoustic Band In The World, has a couple of WWW pages for your enjoyment: http://tswww.cc.emory.edu/~dsaxe/millan-kenzie.html (lotsa pictures and lyrics) Also see the pages for Rainy Day Records, who distributes M&K as well as a bunch of other Atlanta acts: http://ipac.net/HW/RDR/rdrhome.html. (sounds will be here soon.) Soon to come is another set of RDR pages at Monsterbit: http://monsterbit.com/ And here's Millan & Kenzie's January tour schedule, all E. coast, as well as the rest of the stuff you get when you finger me: --------------------------------------------------------------------- _SHRINE_ IS HERE!!! It should be available at your local record store, or call Rainy Day Records to order: 1-800-636-6166 or (404)636-6166. (Or to get it to your local record store!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOUR SCHEDULE: Dec. 31 Atlanta GA/Eddie's Attic (New Year's Eve!) Jan. 6 Columbia SC/Annie's Jan. 7 Chapel Hill NC/Crescent City Music Hall Jan. 10 Atlanta GA/Oxford Books-Pharr Rd. COMPLETELY acoustic! Jan. 11 Augusta GA/The Post Office Jan. 12 Fairfax (DC) VA/TT Reynold's Jan. 13 Richmond VA/Memphis Jan. 14 Va. Beach VA/The Jewish Mother Jan. 17 Alexandria VA./Bad Habits(z?) w/Eddie From Ohio Jan. 18 Auburn AL/War Eagle Supper Club (TENTATIVE) Jan. 19 Auburn Al/War Eagle Supper Club (DEFINITE) Jan. 20 Atlanta GA/Eddie's Attic Jan. 21 Rock Hill SC/(I don't know the name of the venue; e-mail for details) Jan. 27 Pensacola FL/Sluggo's (New location, I think) Feb. 10 Atlanta GA/Eddie's Attic Feb. 25 Black Mtn. NC/The Grey Eagle ------------------------------ From: Richard Payne <dirk@savoy.maires.co.uk> ANNOUNCE: NW2noise WWW Server New Ways to Noise. Serving Cricklewood, London and the World. NW2Noise for the discerning lover of all things loud. Point yr Browser at: http://www.maires.co.uk/nw2n Featuring music, pics and info contributed by: Huggy Bear, Headbutt, Fabric, Bumgravy, Cornershop..... More info from: -------------------------------------------------------------------- dik noise@maires.co.uk NOP Research Group Ltd (+44) (0)171 612 0421 (phone) Tower House, Southampton Street (+44) (0)171 612 0574 (fax) London WC2E 7HN ------------------------------ From: pnini@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu AD: Great Plains Reunion, 21 December, Staches, Columbus OH A D V E R T I S E M E N T Most of you indie-listers are probably too young to have experienced first-hand Columbus' Great Plains, who ruled the underground in the mid to late 80s with their very own brand of Rolling Rock-fueled, smart-assed, cheesy organ and guitar-driven indie rock. They recorded many fine slabs of vinyl for Homestead in the US, Shadowline in Holland, and even had a compilation released by Diablo in the UK. Anyway, here's your chance to see what you missed, as the Plains reunite for one night only on December 21 at Staches in Columbus, Ohio. Thrill to the sights of Ron, Mark, Matt, Dave, Jim, and alternately Don, Mike, Paul, and Bill (more complicated than a Guided by Voices lineup!) as they prove that they're not too old to rock. Big names will be in attendance; so should you! Thanks much. Paul Nini pnini@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu <------------------------------------------------------------> The Indie-List Digest is published a few times each week (usually Tuesdays and Fridays) by the Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. What Who Where Editors Eric Sinclair esinclai@indiana.edu Anne Zender azender@indiana.edu Mailings Sean Murphy grumpy@access.digex.net Archives Chris Karlof karlofc@seq.cms.uncwil.edu FTP ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/indie Consultants: Mark Cornick, Joshua Houk, Sean Murphy, Liz Clayton and K. Lena Bennett. Indie-List is not copyrighted. 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