The seal is the sworn enemy of man. ############################# Indie List Digest! December 20, 1994 Volume 4 Number 13 ############################# 3 Days In The Indie-Mill Shudder to Think, Sunny Day Real Estate, Brainiac Silver Jews which came 1st- jem's misfits or danzig's? ------------------------------ From: btg@bach.jhuapl.edu (Brian Gray) 3 Days In The Indie-Mill The Wedding Present/Eggs/Spell@9:30 Club on Wednesday, Nov. 30 I only got to see half of Spell's show, as I was waiting outside for my friend with the tickets. They are a three-piece with the feature that kills stage presence like no other...a singing drummer. They gave off the aura of basement metal dorks, standing stiffly, looking at the floor, and hiding behind their hair. Still, I enjoyed listening to them immensely. Their songs had a huge number of hooks bouncing around, with the female bass player putting in delicious vocal counterparts at just the right moments. The guitarist was strictly rhythm, but this actually had the good effect of making them keep the songs to the point...not a single one had me thinking "OK, this has gone on long enough." I would definitely see this band again. Eggs came on next, dressed in suits. Andrew was a bit uncomfortable in this getup, saying "I don't know how the Knack does it," but the dapperness fit their lounge-indieness quite well. They played a large number of new songs, and it made me hungry for their new record to come out. Rob's trombone has been given a lot more room in the arrangements and really helps to set the mood. I wish I had grabbed a set list so I could refer to the songs by name. The second song in their set was an impeccably crafted pop song of the Bacharach and David school, with each rhythmic shift and unexpected chord change making my jaw drop further. "A Pit With Spikes" is a good reference point for this one, but while that song only hinted at such perfect lushness, this song creates a complete world, more graceful than the one we live in. On other songs, they have done a lot of toying with time signature and have more smoothly integrated it into the sound. On one song, they have a driving 4/4 with occasional free-floating bursts to keep dancers on their toes, the same way that My Bloody Valentine did on "Feed Me With Your Kiss." On another, I tried counting off the strange beat, but found it distracted me from enjoying the song itself. These songs are a much better application of this rhythmic experimentation than the "March Of The Triumphant Elephants," which, I'm glad, has fallen out of their set. They played a few songs off Exploder (Why Am I So Tired All The Time, A Pit With Spikes, Ampallang, Erin Go Bragh) to keep people from being lost in the unfamiliar, but this just emphasized how much the new songs are an improvement. This being Andrew's last show as a DC native, I thought he would give us badge-wearing office weenies a send-off with "The Government Administrator," but in all honesty, I hardly missed it. This is hands down the best show I have ever seen from Eggs. It's hard to believe this is the same band whom I saw playing drunken versions of AC/DC covers in Richmond a year ago. The Wedding Present's live show had been so grandly built up by other fans, I had been looking forward to this for years. Of course, such expectations are required to go unfulfilled. I had heard so many people talk of the hyperspeed, hyperextended guitar-racket versions of their songs as the pinnacle of angry teen bliss. Well, they never did a single one. Kennedy was feisty, of course, and a lot of those tempo shifts were still eyebrow-raising, but most of the songs were played by rote and differed little from the album versions. I enjoyed the show, and danced around happily, but I wasn't left stunned in the slightest. Perhaps it was a bad night for them, but I won't feel bad for holding gods to a higher standard. Gravity's Pull@15 Minutes on Thursday, December 1 I used to work at 15 Minutes as a DJ, and this was my first time hearing my replacement, Tony T. Most club DJs in DC are fond of the painfully simple "bass drum on every beat" techno, but there was none to be heard this night. There was a lot of pop stuff in the mix to keep the rich folk drinking, but this is still the only club I know of where you can hear The Frank And Walters, The Popinjays, Patti Smith, Chapterhouse, Liz Phair, Veruca Salt, etc. I danced myself into a stupor. During the night, I went to the club's back room, where they have bands playing. There was a band I had never heard of by the name of Gravity's Pull, who said they are from Chapel Hill. Straightforward punk/pop, with enjoyable male/female vocal exchanges. I bought their CD, which is pleasant, although they put this out before they really had enough material to get someone to pay attention for this amount of time. Perhaps I'll review it more fully once I get to know it. Wendy Repass/Paint/Damn Near Red/Charming@Pete's in Charlottesville, VA on Friday, December 2 Wendy Repass was a clever local with acoustic guitar. She was able to toy with dynamics well and worked the mike well for her strong voice. Her stage presence makes me think she works in a day care center. She says she wants to get a full band together, which I think will be a big help in getting these songs across. Paint. Well, that's my band, so I guess I can't really review us fairly. I'll review the audience instead. They were amazing...they didn't even know who we were, and they got up and danced the entire time. It gave me so much nervous energy, my arm hairs were standing up. We want to move to Charlottesville. Damn Near Red are a Richmond band who toy with textures in the manner of Slint, Sonic Youth, and Pitchblende. This style of music is always best live...the surprising shifts seem to make the entire room move, and gravity becomes relative. The singer had a daunting presence, her overalls, buzz-cut, and powerful frame making her seem like psychotic farmgirl. (I met her afterwards, she's actually quite personable.) I immediately bought up everything they had on record, which, unfortunately, isn't much. This was Charming's first show, and the nervousness was apparent. Still, they did a pleasant set of jangly indie-pop that kept my toes tapping. The material will probably get stronger over time, it was a bit up and down this night. The high point of their set, though, was a 12-minute improv where the rhythm section played a trippy vamp similar to The Temptations' "Psychedelic Shack" and the singer picked up a flute and walked out dreamy melodies. Imagine how it would sound if The Stone Roses did "The Hustle." There is no such thing as too long for a groove as sweet as this. I woke up Saturday morning suffering from some vicious back spasms. I'm going to have to get myself used to this pace. ------------------------------ From: rented@merle.acns.nwu.edu Shudder to Think, SDRE, Brainiac December 8, 1994. Shudder To Think, Sunny Day Real Estate, Brainiac. @ Metro, Chicago, Illinois. I met Juan and John from Brainiac the previous day at my house. They, along with roommate JSolomon, had just been treated to a fantastic Chinese dinner, made all the more fantastic in that it was at SubPop's expense. Apparently, the label is trying to -woo- them. The show started at 6:50 (you gotta love all-ages shows that display, along with the band line-up and start-times, a "10:00 CURFEW") and I got there in time. Another Chicago club area parking tip: the street angling East of the Metro is a prime spot for street parking (that is, on non-Cubs nights). Brainiac has a distinct sound. Not straight-up punk at all; they've added a MOOG-type keyboard and tons of vocal effects which range from gargling to ... gargling. Vocals sounded great at the expense of words. Lead singer and keyboardist John explains that "you have to program the keyboard each time." It follows that Brainiac live WILL sound different than Brainiac on vinyl. The guitarist, while reminding me of Eugene V. Tooms (that famed X-File villian), played some damned creative lines. Brainiac is definitely not your usual fare. I don't know much about Sunny Day Real Estate ... except for a bunch of hype and the rumor that the lead singer has turned into a Born Again Christian (that famed X-Files villian) and will indeed walk away from all major label interest and money. This is just a rumor. After seeing them live, though, I hope it becomes true. The religion he's practicing right now is downright DULL. Neophyte rocker and long-term pal MBuccheri kept wishing that the next song would feature a slow, quiet section contrasted to a loud, wailing (er, "rocking") section. Wish came true every time. When it's all been done before musically, I tried to hear the lyrics, but alas ... The best part, for sure, was the end when the bassist and guitarist evoked massive phase-shifting feedback while the lead singer talked about something that I imagine (and hope) was some kind of sermon. Oh yeah ... another neat item: SunnyDRE apparently made more money in Milwaukee off their tee-shirts than their club guarantee. You wonder what their tee-shirts look like? VERY rave-like. I'm just stating the facts. BMoritz tells me that he heard some guy say "If Craig (lead singer of Shudder To Think) is not outright gay, he sure is overtly sexual to men." Before this, MBuccheri and I were sharing a funny memory involving one American classical pianist/vocal accompanist Norman Shetler and his CD feature a "Boy Soprano." This then brought on discussion about "castrati." Then Shudder To Think came on. I had been a fan for over four years and this was my first time ever seeing them. I do not know how to describe the enigmantic Craig Weldren. He, at various times, reminded me of Henry Rollins (he looked sort of built, plus he wore all black - though he didn't scowl), David Graham of Depeche Mode ([am I allowed to allude to them here? [only allude -es]] - because of his occasional posing to the audience), and Billy Bragg (for his somewhat self-deprecating humor and entertaining between-song banter). I liked STThink a lot, even though they only played five songs that I knew. One of them was Red House. For this song, he brought out Smashing Pumpkins guitarist James "Yee-hah" Iha (favorite endearing self-description of Iha: "a shy guy who wanted to be a rock and roll guy"). Apparently, Iha's been making a lot of noise about STThink. Better late than never. Maybe the SPumpkins wil cover them when they go Unplugged. What I did miss from STThink was hearing back-up vocals from their ex-drummer. Fellow concert goers Brook and Sarah went to buy tee-shirts (not the rave-like tee-shirts) and ended up talking ever so briefly to Craig. Brook got him to sign something. Two things actually, one for him and one for Sarah, whom he said was his girlfriend (which is not true, Sarah fans). Craig signed it "To Girlfriend, Love Craig." renato -- rented@merle.acns.nwu.edu ------------------------------ From: pjoe@grafix.xs4all.nl (Joep Vermaat) Silver Jews Since a few months I've been working for a music Magazine in Holland called 'Opscene'. It's not that big a magazine, only a few thousand copies get sold. It's completely independent and because of that also completely voluntary. But it's a great way to get my opinion across to more people than usual. Recently I had to honour to do an interview with David Berman of The Silver Jews. It was quite a nice experience, although it was only my second interview ever. The editor at Opscene didn't mind me spreading the interview around the net, because you won't ever buy the magazine anyway. It's a language thing. Named after Silva Joao, an ancient Brazillian hero. That was what the release info said about The Silver Jews' third record, 'Starlite Walker'. But the boss of Drag City didn't hear the name right and made 'Silver Jews' out of it. "I don't know what you're talking about", David said, amused, when I asked him a question about the hero, "but I think you're the victim of a bullshit story thought up by Drag City; they're notorious for that. No, we have had the name for a long time. And we just thought it up because we're fan of a lot of bands like The Silver Apples and The Silver Beatles. We wanted something with Silver in it, but Jewish. So, Silver Jews it became." The Silver Jews were founded around 1989 when David, Steve Malkmus and Bob Nastanovich still went to college together in Virginia. Far before Pavement had recorded anything. "Most people think Silver Jews is a side project of Pavement. But it's really the other way around. Pavement only grew out to be a very popular side project." Because of their popularity, Silver Jews became more and more a solo vehicle for David. "Still, we have lots of plans to do more things together in Silver Jews. Steve wants to make an album of his own, singing my songs. And there's gonna be a new EP on which I'm playing with other people for the first time, but still by the name of Silver Jews. And in January me and Will Oldham of Palace are going into the studio to record two very long songs by the name of Silver Palace. And we'll be touring early next year." Although this is a very busy schedule, David still sees making music as a hobby. "I don't think Silver Jews will ever be very popular and that's all right. I do it because I like to. And if somebody else likes it, then that's fine." In daily life he's an English graduate; he writes fiction and poetry and he's working on getting his master's degree. To make some money he teaches at the University. For writing the songs he doesn't always use his writing skills. "Early on, we just went into the studio, started a tape, smoked a joint and then started talking. Only 'The country diary of a Subway conductor' on the new record is made like that. But we used to record everything that way." For 'Starlite Walker' David has taken his time to write songs. In the little city of Oxford, Mississippi, he rented a small cabin in the woods, just for inspiration. "It was a very old laboratory of a retired chemist. It's in the middle of the woods about fifteen kilometers from Oxford. That's the place I lived and wrote the songs all summer long. And because Memphis is just an hour drive, we recorded them there." On the cover you can see why he chose this place to get inspired. "That's a picture of a small house near the place I lived. But it looks like it. Mississippi is a wonderful place; it's very quiet. An area that has been forgotten for so long. If you're there, you get the feeling you're not on this world, that no one can ever find you. It's like you're living in the past. In Mississippi the past is more present than the present." It's a feeling you can hear in the songs. "Because I've grown up in the South, I was influenced by its past. I'm interested in stories and telling stories. That's how I spend the time with people. Because of that, a lot of my songs are based on stories." He has a lot of respect for people who put emphasis on words. In his record collection you can find records by The Band, Chuck Berry and more recently Palace, Beck and Royal Trux. Lots of the Drag City label. "It's one of the best labels in the whole world. If it ever stops existing, only then people will realise what a great collective it was. Now they're going on strong, nobody notices." One of the funniest moments on the record is the "..and we're stuck inside the song.." part in 'New Orleans.' "It isn't really meant to be funny. It's a two-way thing. It's sort of a long song and we're still in it. And the other part of it is the subject of the song. The `I' in the song is a guy literally trapped in a house he has broken into a hundred years ago. And he's now some sort of ghost trapped inside the house. And the song is a house. I have this idea you could make a record and it would be like you can live inside it forever. It's like an old photograph, everything would still be in there. Songs are like rooms and houses. I've had that idea with that song that he would be preserved in it." Because writing is David's first love, he does that the most. "The past few years I've been collecting all of my own stuff. And at the end of the year I hope to send a big text to some publishers, just to test the waters." But he doesn't worry about that much. "I know I'm going to do that the rest of my life. Hopefully I'll be ready to put out books in my 30s. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't." Just like with the Silver Jews, David has enough plans for himself. "I want to have a huge family. A dynasty of children and grandchildren. So I can sit at the head of the table and tell all my offspring stories. Living in Oxford. And fishing.." During the interview we talked about Slint, because Bob knows most of the guys. And he came up with some info: Slint has split up, although they tried to record one song for six months, but nothing happened. Britt has got a new band called Evergreen. And Brian MacMahan is doing a record by himself. And recently I read that David Pajo joined King Kong. Does anybody have any details about releases or anything? /// One of THE TWO PURE \\\ /// Joep : pjoe@grafix.xs4all.nl \\\ Groetjes, Joep ------------------------------ From: "der. dann medin." <DLM94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> which came 1st- jem's misfits or danzig's? duh. hello again. before i dissolve another second of yr time w/cyberplaster, i jus wanna thank everyone that sent me advice on fotos in zines. i got a lot more response than i expected & it's gonna help me a lot. it just re- enforces my faith in a kinder, gentler independent music scene where we can all just help each other out, instead of being competitive schmucks like some people/labels that i know of. i really appreciate it and send you electronic hugs. ok. if i went over every show i've seen since i originally wrote th last issue, i'd break in half. physically. i kinda go on sometimes, like right now, & don't shut up & get to th point. th point: bikini kill; ok in worchester, better @ 158. (connecticut) am i slow? did anyone else know that they signed to warner over 6 months ago? i guess i can be a critical dick, but this is mean. i still luv their music. vitapup was fabulous as as opening band. kudgel's last show is boston was fun, but not as good as i've seen them in th past. i'm sure that everyone is gonna miss these lard butts. mark's already onto nu projects,(one is circus music!) so don't despair... karp & th fitz in boston (11/9) were a lot of fun...i saw huggy bear 3 times this tour, most of which th shows were kinda hit or miss. i'll spend my time on th hit. it wasn't th boston show. on th other hand, (10/10 @ th middle east) th opening bands were fabulous. mona from spore did solo stuff, quivver sounded a lot better since last year, and fifth column was a lot of fun. th drummer does this thing w/his arms while he's playing, i can't really describe it, but it's really funny. see them if ya get th chance. huggy bear, vitapup, syrup, & 2 others @ hampshire college, ma...11/12... syrup was great. not that different from her syrup stuff w/weirdo keyboard stuff. i luv seana's voice. good girl/boy harmonies. VITAPUP! i love them so much. they just came out w/a second 7" & another one is due pretty soon. nyc spurted seeds from n.o.u. & unwound in a bass-centered/guitar noise kinda vein, w/a guy that spins lights, lots of poetry, and jane, who sings pretty songs about evil tooth fairies. see them, they are hot stuff. dig? h.b. only did nu material from "weaponry..." which i'm not sure if it's out on k.r.s. yet, i have a wiija copy. this was their last tour, they're all broken up. less niki singing, but still intense when they're on fire. very sweet individuals as well. th only oldie they did was a fuk'd up version of "pansy twist" which went into a jam. archers of loaf, ivy,