Bop a doo ee oo! ############################# Indie List Digest! March 13, 1995 Volume 4 Number 20 ############################# contents: Punk Retreading Ad Infinitum pop zine dream Mike Watt Tortoises in the snow various reviews AD: Jersey Beat <------------------------------> From: Kent Williams <kent@cadsi.com> Punk Retreading Ad Infinitum [in reference to an earlier discussion, begin in I-L v4n17 -es] Aaron Schatz <ST000414@BROWNVM.brown.edu> in his inimitable fashion said: > as a Buzzcocks fan I think it's about time we had a Buzzcocks tribute band > (which Green Day are, in effect, down to the affected British accents) > make it to the top ten. I have a 9-year-old who is bonko over Green Day, so I've had to hear "Dookie" more times than I wanted to, and to me it sounds like "This is the Modern World" by the Jam, only with lyrics about how depressing life is when you're a pothead wanker. All that aside, the music isn't too bad. Not when Boyz II Men are out there ... Which reminds me -- if you think you know punk, and you don't have "This is the Modern World," your education isn't complete. Like the Buzzcocks (and White Music by XTC) it ages much more gracefully than, say, "London Calling" by the Clash. Listen to it with your Mum and watch her get misty-eyed about the safety pin she used to wear in her cheek ... -- Kent Williams kent@cadsi.com "Swirling a sound [in Quadrophonic Space] at an audio rate produces interesting spatial and modulative effects" -- Serge Modular Product Spec Sheet. <------------------------------> From: Malathrsk@aol.com pop zine dream i'm not gonna judge you, 'cuz my bedroom's quite the mess! Jack Logan-Bulk(twin/tone); with the acceptance of lo-fi and home tapers like mountain goats and john davis, the stage is set for people like jack logan. it also helps to have countrified/fried genuises like palace and the grifters running around out there. this long 2-disc set runs the gamut from full-band arrangements through spare ensemble sorta things to stark personal vocal/guitar-only pieces. some songs are slowfolky songs, other have a nice swing feel to them, and then there's a few full-out rockers (sorta). this should have something for everyone. it's also highly recommended listening on a lazy Friday afternoon when you're playing hooky from work and recuperating from a late Thursday night that was filled with popular/pseudo-industrial/dance crap. magnetic fields-the wayward bus/distant plastic trees (merge);since my only exposure to MF with susan anway singing were a couple of singles, i was really looking forward to hearing these two hard to find full- length recordings. i can't say i was one bit disappointed. the same slow, sultry songs, but with a different singer. i won't say i like this more or less than the other 2 recent MF records. i like 'em all. A LOT! i listen to this disc as i stare out the window and watch the warm sun melt all that shitty wisconsin snow. sigh! i wish i was somewhere else. east river pipe-shining hours in a can (ajax) another band i was only familiar with through a handful of singles. simple, scrumptous pop that's made by one guy in his living room somewhere in new york. crystal clear with perfect jangle guitar and just the right understated keyboards. as a matter of fact this record is so nice that i think i'll go make myself a drink and sit back and enjoy it again. if you should try to call in the next 45 minutes, i won't be answering the phone. canannes/new world experience(spit and a half)Whoa! looks like i got a bite here, Skipper! this is the first in a purported 5-record set of split singles of australian pop bands. 'tis is a hell of a way to start. 2 songs by 2 canannes. frances singing, and steve oneil strumming. one of 'em whistling. N.W.E is a four-tracker by a couple of chaps. its distinctly australian, distinctly pop. it's also a fine way to expose people to this band. this should be a great bunch of records to get and it would be a shame to miss this one. twin/tone 2217 nicollet ave so. minneapolis,mn 55404 merge records po 1235 chapel hill,nc 27514 ajax po 805293 chicago,il 60680-4114 spit and a half po 18510 denver,co 80218 brought to you by Malathion Risk. send e-mail for directions on how to receive a cool zine on pop music and drama <------------------------------> From: David Gershwin <gershwin@hollywood.cinenet.net> -- Mike Watt -- _Ball-Hog or Tugboat?_ ** Mike Watt Ball-Hog or Tugboat? Columbia Records Mr. Watt makes his solo debut and shows us what he's really made of -- er, rather, what he and about 653,000 guest artists are made of. It's the indie all-star list, no doubt -- J. Mascis, the Kirkwood Bros., Sonic Youth and the infant Gordon-Moore offspring, Lanegan, I could go on forever -- but the shining star in this bunch is the Geraldine Fibbers' Carla Bozulich, whose baritone vocals meld beautifully with Watt's bass playing on the self-indulgent "Drove Up From Pedro," the funky "Sidemouse Advice" and the cover of Sonic Youth's "Tuff Gnarl." Ball-Hog is chock full o' unconventionalities, the best of which is Kathleen Hanna's diatribe against Watt and her perceived faults of male rock stardom -- a category into which I would hardly put him, but it's a nice touch nonetheless, and she was obviously having a bad day -- perhaps Watt's been listening to the Jerky Boys too much. Musically, it's a potpourri, mostly due to the wide variety of artists. Sure, the cover of Maggot Brain ain't the best, but then again, how many Funkadelic covers include Bernie Worrell, their O.G. keyboard player? Beasties are to be found as well on "E-Ticket Ride" (hey, Mouseschwitz hasn't had E-tickets since the late '70s, but then again, the Beasties probably don't know and don't care) and the double-album's closer, "Coincidence is Better than Hit or Miss." Look -- it ain't no _Exile on Main Street_, and you're probably better off listening to the Minutemen's _Double Nickels on the Dime_ for sheer musical artistry. As "windy" on sick-n-tired-l puts it, the rock-star quotient is pretty dang high (vedders and pirners _y compris_), and it sometimes sounds like a bunch of Burgie-inspired-forays-with-a-four-track. But haven't we all at some time fantasized about having our creative noodlings released by a major label? As far as I'm concerned, it's just fine -- and the great cover concept (sniped with 1920s-era wrestling graphics to jive with Watt's "label," the Mike Watt Wrestling Federation), along with a "Ring-Spiel'95" glossary of Pedro Speak, makes for a fine Sunday afternoon of good listenin'. Hmm, it's about time for me to go get some "pucks" (look it up). David Gershwin gershwin@cinenet.net /=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/= "If you don't like barbecue, you need some help. You need to seek medical attention." -- Wilberdan Shirley, owner of Wilber's BBQ in Greensboro, NC, in the NYTimes 2/15/95 David Gershwin gershwin@cinenet.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <------------------------------> From: pjoe@grafix.xs4all.nl (Joep Vermaat) Tortoises in the snow The streets of Haarlem were covered with ice and muddy snow. The night before it had snowed for the first time in 1995. In front of the venue ("Het Patronaat") stood the enormous tour bus of Tortoise, The Sea and Cake and 11th Dream Day. Just enough room for three bands on tour together. But 11th Dream Day had remained home; the child of the singer and the guitarist had become very ill. The tour had only just started and the first concert in London was already a big success. A lot of prominent musicians of the English experimental music scene had come to watch the band in the small and crowded venue. Among them were Bruce Gilbert (ex-Wire), Richard D. James (The Aphex Twin), Stereolab and Debbie Googe (My Bloody Valentine). If people like that are coming to see an unknown band like this, you can be sure it's one of the most interesting bands of the moment. But if you listen to the music that becomes even more evident. The first single, "Lonesome Sound," appeared early 1994 and sounded reasonably contemporary. Song structures and lyrics, it sounded a lot like Slint. The second, "Mosquito," was very different, instrumentals with South American rhythms. But the eponymous debut album was the true surprise. No song structures and almost all of it instrumental. "The music we play is very much influenced by the music we all listen to," says John McEntire. "Everybody puts a bit of their influences in it. It's a filtering process. The people in this band all have such different backgrounds musically that in the end the music doesn't sound like any other." The core of Tortoise consists of a fixed group of people, who all play in bands from Chicago and Louisville. John McEntire (drums, vibraphone, melodica and keyboard), has played in Bastro and now also drums for The Sea and Cake. Douglas McComb (bass) plays with 11th Dream Day. John Herdon (drums, vibraphone) has played with the Poster Children as well as The Mekons. Dan Bitney (percussion) plays with Tar Babies. Bundy K. Brown temporarily left the band because he detests playing live. His replacement is Dave Pajo, also known as the guitarist of Slint and The Palace Brothers during the first album. He has teamed up with Brian McMahan again in a band called "The Four Carnation." Although all the members play in other bands, they don't see Tortoise as a 'side-project'. John Herdon: "If you use that term, you assume that you have one project that you're really serious about while you just fool around with this other project. We're serious about everything we do. It's something that is completely accepted in the jazz community. People play with different people all the time. That way you can learn a great deal." John McEntire: "Our lineup isn't really fixed either. At any moment people can play with us or add things to Tortoise." John Herdon: "On Stereolab's Duophonic label we're about to release a ten-inch, on which there's a track we recorded with about 18 people." The way Tortoise play live also has a lot in common with jazz. "We try to do something different every concert we play." says Douglas McComb, "But we haven't been on tour long enough to expand that and try and improvise more. At this moment we just try to be comfortable with the songs. Just adding a little something now and then." In the studio Tortoise works in a similar way. Douglas: "For the album we locked ourselves in the studio a week long. We stayed there every day, with just about five hours sleep. And then we would come back into the studio to work on things." John McEntire: "Most of the tracks we had prepared before we went in. But on the record there are about three things we created in the studio, the kind of layered ones, looped pieces of music we kept cutting and turning around. And by doing that we completely changed the composition." After a month they came back to mix the whole thing. And so there was this magical debut. What can we expect of Tortoise in 1995? Well, at this moment the first (Why we fight/Whitewater) of two singles on the English 'Soul Static Sounds' label is out. The ten inch on the Duophonic label will be released in March. Tortoise will also release another album with remixes of most of the tracks, which are done by members of Tortoise and friends. John McEntire: "We gave everyone the freedom to do what they liked. More than fifty percent of the tracks on that record don't have any resemblance to the original." At the end of the interview I give Tortoise a list of records with which I associate their debut album: Talk Talk: "Spirit of Eden" & "Laughing Stock" Orang: "Herd of Instinct" 0: "Metri" Aphex Twin: "Selected Ambient Works II" Slint: "Spiderland" Bruce Gilbert: "This way to the shivering man" Bedhead: "What fun life was" Shiva Affect: "Yahweh" Bark Psychosis: "Hex" Main: "Motion Pool" Laika: "Silver apples of the moon" Artificial Intelligence (WARP) Ostzonensuppenwurfelmachenkrebs Gastr del Sol They acknowledge most of the names on the list, although they haven't heard of Bark Psychosis or 0. At my request they make me a list of tips: Keith Hudson: "Pick a Dub" Xenakis: "Electro Acoustic music" Stockhausen: "Hymnen" Morton Subotnik: "Silver Apples of the moon" Tod Dockstader: "Quartermass" Robert Ashley: "Private Parts/Private lives" Dom: "Edge of time" This Heat (everything is absolutely essential) African Head Charge: "My life in a hole in the ground" African Head Charge: "In search of Sanshame land" King Tubby: "Rockers meets King Tubby in a fire house" King Tubby: "meets Lee Scratch Perry" Edikanfo: "African Super Band" Tito Puente: (Anything from 1945-1995, best: 1947-1954) Fela: "Zombie, Original Sufferhead" Brian Eno + David Byrne: "My life in a bush of ghosts" James Brown: "Funky people part 2" anything by Luigi Nono, Luc Ferrari, Pierre Henry, Pierre Schaeffer, Scott Walker, Alvin Lucier, Franco Battiato, King Tubby, On-U Sound, Traditional music of Burundi, Morocco As you can see. Plenty of music to check out.. | pjoe@grafix.xs4all.nl (|oe|) | one of the TWO PURE <------------------------------> From: bh813@freenet.carleton.ca (Jon Georgekish-Watt) various reviews some of these things aren't particularly new, but i felt like talking about them anyway: junebug/pumpernickel - split 7" you shouldn't even think of living a minute longer without this record in your collection...this is one of the non-new things so you should get crackin' and get this record before it sells out...both bands are absolutely great...and even the bigwigs at alternative press agree with this...pumpernickel are more sonically engaging with their unbelievable noise factor within a pure pop context...and the gender- bending vocals are intriguing as well...cool lyrics too...no sad soul should be without these two songs...junebug, tho', are unmatched for wittiness, quirkiness and a total pop sensibility that's not a bit generic..."you are wet and your hair smells good" is not the best of their three songs, but i've rarely heard a better title...their side of the record is punctuated by moments of weirdness juxtaposed with pure melody... and to top the whole thing off, one of the singers sounds remotely like jad fair...(teenage velvet) sammy/blonde redhead - split 7" this record came with issue #7 of nipple hardness factor...i don't know how available it is these days (nhf #7 was the fall '94 issue), but if you can hunt it down, don't hesitate to buy it...the interesting thing about the record is that sammy get accused of ripping off pavement and blonde redhead get accused of ripping off sonic youth...i say let them, because both bands are great, and i think the comparisons (esp. brh to sy) are exaggerated...anyway get it while you can...(misha records, the nhf label) i recently acquired two cassette-only releases that i think everyone should check out: biggestest - "xmasongsonvalentines" bigger than biggest indeed!...we all know that lo-fi is the way to go and this release (on the brand-new plainsong label) proves it...why?...because it was recorded alternately on 4-track and microcassette recorder and it sounds perfect...biggestest is one boy with a few friends/siblings walking randomly in and out of his basement/bedroom "studio" creating beautiful sounds all the while...there are a few songs with vocals, lazily yet melodically mumbled/sung...but mostly we have moody and inspiring instrumentals of textured guitar playing...there's a total of something like 17 tracks here but all preserve a totally impressive continuity that makes for the perfect soundtrack to the days that you just can't get out of bed, or better yet, the days where you could get out of bed, but choose not to...(plainsongs can be reached at ak320@freenet.carleton.ca) moon socket - "socket to me" the boy who, on this release, goes by the name of christopher moon socket, is also known as chris thompson and can most often be found shyly playing guitar in eric's trip (who are, without a doubt, the greatest band canada has ever spawned)...tho' chris is not the primary songwriter in the band, much of this release sounds remarkably like eric's trip in a mellow mood...done on 4-track (of course), these 11 songs are all really strong, with only two obvious flaws: one song has slightly cheesy lyrics, and another does this sonically creepy voice thing at the end...in the big picture these flaws are really easy to ignore because on the whole the tape is great...even includes a cover of "bolder", an early sebadoh song from "weed forestin'/the freed weed"...(derivative records) lois - "shy town" - cd5 what can i say?...1 song from the new "bet the sky" lp, 4 exclusive to this ep...lois is a diva...she's a genius...she's a classic girl... this ep is great in its own right, and makes me desperate for the full-length...which i'll be getting soon for sure...(k records) i have varying amounts of additional information (such as addresses and prices) for each of these releases...if you e-mail me (bh813@freenet.carleton.ca), i'll gladly share whatever information i can... jon <------------------------------> From: JimJBeat@aol.com AD: Jersey Beat #53 New York, New York: If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. 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