Punk Rock Rules! (and Regulations!)


      Indie List Digest!

        April 4, 1995

     Volume 4   Number 23



Zine reviews from the southern edge of the globe
Various reviews from Malathion Risk
Chunk Records Night
elevator to hell, versus
ANNOUNCE: Indie-L exchange
ANNOUNCE:  Smack Dab Tour

obligatory tardy apology -es


From: langham@multiline.com.au (Mr Bernard Langham)
Zine reviews from the southern edge of the globe

[This is a continuation (the "zine section" if you will) of Bernard's 
piece of IL v4n22).  For more of Bernard's work, check out the Wood & 
Wire site at http://www.magna.com.au/woodwire/index.html, although 
many of these reveiews were written by his compatriot, Richard.  -es]

BRONX CHEER#1 (40pges Digest Size) PO Box 785 Blaine WA 98231 USA - 
This can make for quite an exhausting read, partly because it squeezes 
so many reviews and interviews into its pages, but also because to do 
this they've used tiny print (in a yucky computer-print style font at 
that) that can be a trifle hard to make out, especially in places 
where it hasn't photocopied too well.  Having said that, it's 
definitely worth struggling with the sometimes suckful layout, cause 
Bronx Cheer (cute name) is put together by two guys with an 
encyclopedic knowlege of cool U.S.  & N.Z.  indie rock.  They kinda 
come across a bit like record-collecting geeks (my favourite sort) 
and although there's a little bit of that classic indie-snobbery 
happening I found their honest, personal responses to the music 
discussed endearing as well as educational.

There's in depth interviews with Cul De Sac, Codeine, Peter Jeffries 
and Bailter Space, and mostly they have a great conversational feel.

The most annoying thing was how readily they bagged their hometown, 
Vancouver: they practically apologize for featuring an interview with 
local band Blaise Pascal, and they even have a PO Box over the border 
in the good old U.S.  of A.  (they say this is cause the rates are 
cheaper...) - there's something icky about digging foreign culture to 
the point of cringing about your own, I reckon.

I'm just quibbling though, basically Bronx Cheer is pretty cool.

FRANTZINE #4 (72pgs Digest Size $US3) HCR1 Box 185K Leeds NY 12451 USA 
- This beautiful little number is put togther by the 2 sisters Frantz 
(Frantz#1 & Frantz#2) who are both really, really funny, ask lots of 
intelligent questions of lots of cool bands, write clever reviews of 
lots of cool records, and jeez, are coming awful close to stealing in 
front of the Chickfactor gals as my fave zine writers.

In #4 they give us interviews with Bob Fay, Steve Malkmus, and a hilarious 
one with Will Oldham where he ends up singing Prince songs; they 
introduce their game show-inspired "Speed Round" line of questioning 
for Crayon, and they also talk to a group on Shrimper who I've not yet 
had the pleasure of hearing called Soul Junk.  Then there's an article 
style interview with the Thinking Fellers, a report on Sebadoh's tour 
of Japan written by Anne Slinn taken from the Sebadoh-list, a kind of 
on-line Sebadoh fan club (cyber-doh?!) a great comic pisstake of 
Reality Bites, a Dikothi-Q tour diary, and yeah, even more stuff that 
you really should write away for!

SHIT ON BRISBANE #10 (36A5pgs $2) P.O.Box 405 Hamilton 4007 Brisbane 
Qld - Surfacing in late '94 for the first time in ten years 
(apparently - first time I'd ever heard of it was when I picked up 
this issue from the Brisband Stall at 4ZzZ's recent carparkmarketday - 
i also scored a free Dream Killers poster - awwright!), the title of 
this zine seems to me kind of misleading cause it's actually pretty 
enthusiastic and supportive of Brisbane music.  Maybe it should be 
called Shit In Brisbane, because basically all it deals with is 
yob-rock...  you get interviews with Rollo (of Splurt records and 
local pub-rock giants Blowhard), Chopper Division, Travis, Turtlebox, 
and G.K.  & the Trash Mafia, some comics I really couldn't be bothered 
with, some satire (?), and quite a few giveaways courtesy of Polygram 
Records.  (Punk Rock!)

THE NOCTAVIAN PRINCIPLE#1 (20pgs Digest Size $?) Eudlo Post Office 
Eudlo 4554 Qld - When I first moved from Brisbane to Perth I was 
amazed at how healthy (?) goth culture was over there in the sunny 
West.  At the Firm (then the only "alternative" nightclub in Perth) at 
tthe Post Office, at Booragoon shopping centre - everywhere I went I'd 
see goths, in full attire (make-up and everything!), in 40 degree 
heat, at least 10 years after the gothic subculture was supposed to 
have died.  Or so I thought.

Weirder still, now I'm back in Brisbane and there's a goth revival 
happening here too! It's different now though I guess.  Similar 
fashions and stuff, but "goths" are into industrial music these days 
aren't they?

Either way, and whether or not they'd like to be referred to as goths, 
the Noctavian Principle is primarily concerned with things industrial, 
and they're quite keen on things German too ("...  most of today's 
fundamental industrial movements in music, art and fashion originated 
from there.").

Issue#1 features part one of an "exclusive" interview with Blixa 
Bargeld, a piece on "Industrialism As It Happened," a whole page of 
German text with the English headline "Editors Shocked By Cheesy 
Country Music", another "exclusive" with Petty Happy and Mellowni from 
Melbourne performance group Tedium, really short interviews with local 
bands Dogmachine and Adofex, someone called Axe Babe talks about their 
art, some excellent comics, and a smattering of fiction, like "Squirm 
Psychosis" a story about a Goth who wanders cynically through the 
suburbs at 2 am scaring off violent bogans by showing them his willy 
(like, yeah right?! that's one good way to get the shit kicked of 

I really enjoyed this zine, so if you're actually into "industrial" 
(whatever that actually means) you'll probably think it's marvellous.



Mr Bernard Langham . langham@multiline.com.au . Perth, Western Ashtraylia
<a href="http://multiline.com.au/~langham/">Mah homepage</a>

"Cover me with rain/ Walk me down the lane/
		We will never change/ No matter what they say"
			Beat Happening "Indian Summer"


From: Malathrsk@aol.com
Reviews from Malathion Risk

well, here we are in cincinnati, the paris of the new world.  yeesh! 
what better way to spend my last day off before back to work but 
listening to some records and watching the springtime sun glare 
through the windows.  this is what i listened to today:

crowsdell-dreamette(big cat): more than adequate, paint-by-numbers 
indie-pop.  an earlier single by them fell through the cracks also.  
produced by steve malkmus this just goes to show that everything that 
pavement touches does not turn to gold.  will this threaten SM's 
status as an indie rok god?

papas fritas-passion play/lame to be (minty fresh): one side is sort 
of swooping pop while the other side is more shake-your-rump pop.  
both songs are part of the strum-pop thing, staying pretty basic while 
remaining catchy as hell.  a couple more singles like this and i'll 
think about forgiving minty fresh for giving us veruca salt.

flying saucer attack-further (drag city) this new full length seems a 
little less fuzzy and a little more droney (if possible) than the 
last one.  a couple of songs have those wonderful, way-buried vocals.  
they're gonna hate me for this, but at times it actually reminds me of 
Tangerine Dream (pre-stratosfear.) at other times it's completely 
distinct.  absolutely dreamy with the smell of fresh-cut (or lit) 
grass in your nostrils.

the legendary jim ruiz group-mij amsterdam+2 (minty fresh): this has 
that perfect swing feel to it.  quietly relaxing.  this is the perfect 
record for just hanging out.  not quite the pseudo-lounge of 
grenadine or the cocktails, but somewhere comfortably in between.

television personalities-yes darling, but is it art? (seed): TVP 
started out so, british, and quirky that it's easy to see why they 
were overlooked by the press over here.  this double-length cd 
contains over 2 dozen early singles and rarities.  at first this 
didn't knock me out, although i knew i was -supposed- to like it.  by 
the time i got to the end though i couldn't remember what it was about 
the beginning that i didn't like.  so i played it again later.  guess 
what i found out? nothing! there was nothing about it i didn't like! 
there are just so many styles on here that it just sounds like a 
collection of singles.  the early ones are sort of reminiscent of 
early XTC (not as quirky, though) and mid-period Kinks.  later i heard 
some american bands being swiped from, the Byrds spring to mind.  And 
finally at the end i heard some nice ballad pop that reminded me of 
no-one and evryone all at once.  as a matter of fact the stuff on the 
second half of the disc made me wish i hadn't gotten rid of their 
Privilege record that i had a couple of years ago.  i'd kinda like to 
give it another listen.

the sea and cake-nassau(thrill jockey): i hadn't much hope for TSAC 
considering they have members of the coctails (who are ok, but don't 
knock me out) and they're from chicago, which isn't exactly my 
favorite music mecca these days.  but i did find out that a guy from 
shrimpboat was involved, and a lot of people whose music i enjoy had 
recommended Shrimpboat.  TSAC's first lp also ended up on several top 
10 lists particularly in the non-punk category.  so...  i checked out 
this new lp and i'm glad i did.  shows me what being close-minded can 
be like.  this is quite jazzy without being derivative or lounge-y at 
all.  and it runs with the skronk factor just often enough.  this rose 
quickly to the top of the playlist and at times virtually became the 
soundtrack to my move.  after you check this out, i'm sure you'll 
want to go back and get the first lp.  i'm even gonna look for those 
Shrimpboat records that i sadly ignored.

magic hour-will they turn you on or will they turn on you (twisted 
village) with the rhythm section of damon and naomi the comparisons 
with galaxie 500 will be many.  and not undeservedly so.  this does 
have the quiet but solid backdrop that G500 had, but with one major 
exception.  that's the intense almost psychedelic guitar of wayne 
rogers.  even the 20 min+ song on the second side will leave you 
breathless.  and not one minute of it is boring.  lots and lots of guitar 
and none of it seems as "just noodling" an extremely rewarding record 
worth seeking out.  caution: there is no pop music on this record.

versus-big head on/N.I.T.A.  (teenbeat): versus are a band best taken 
in short bursts.  thus they are perfect for the 7" pop record format.  
this record is as good as anything they've done lately.  records like 
this are what prompted me to do my zine.  just a plain blast for 
three minutes!

blairmailer-home of the falcon (imp); these sound like they may be 
4-track recordings from several years ago.  i'll just bet the nichols 
bros.  have a ton of this stuff lying around.  thank heavens there's 
people like the guy at imp that think this stuff is good enough to get 
out.  featuring lots of strummy guitar and steve o'neil's saxophone 
and even their favorite rubber duck.  there's a serious lack of people 
hearing this.  don't get left out.  send him your $5.  a better deal 
won't be had for some time.

while i typed this i listened to a wedding present bootleg that you 
can get from the band if you go see them.

and remember, info on a cool zine about pop music and drama is just an 
e-mail away.  brought to you by those friendly folks at Malathion 

drag city  po 476867 chicago  IL 60647
imp po 34  portland, or   97207
minty fresh   po 577400  chicago  IL 60647
seed   14 east 60th   new york  NY 10022
thrill jockey   po 476794   chicago  IL 60647
twisted village  po 35604  brighton, ma   02135


From: "LePageL/MF" <LePageL/MF@hermes.bc.edu>
Chunk Records Night

Chunk Records Night at Middle East Cafe; 3/18

Lineup: Veronica Cartrights, Skud Mountain Boys, Push Kings, Architectural

The last Chunk records night I attended (featuring the casual genius 
of the Steve Westfield big band) was such a pleasure that I decided to 
go it again.  It was, as expected, a mixed bag, but big fun too.

Architectural Metaphors were on when we arrived, doing a heavy 
keyboard thing that was so out of the '70s I could hardly believe 
my ears.  The guitar player even had Peter Frampton hair to go with 
his '70s guitar style (someone in the audience gasped "Sabbath" at one 
point and I think he was one the right track).  They had one 
interesting song, mostly instrumental, with the keyboard player 
looping stuff all over the place and Peter [not his real name] tossing 
off fills.  The drummer, an ethereal hippy girl, got extremely into 
her role of providing ambient percussion, with much hair flipping and 
semi-ecstatic, eyes-closed tapping and thrumming.  She sang, too, in 
that longlines Celtic style.  Other songs seemed less defined and they 
played too long.  Not my thing, but they do it well.

As I've said before, Push Kings are in a Pavement Jr.  phase but 
they're talented, so I expect them to break out of it eventually.  
Four guys, kinda young, kinda slack, high cuteness factor, with above 
average songs in the style of aforementioned pop heroes.  Favorite 
subject: Girls! (surprise, surprise).  When co-lead singer has to sing 
the line about "my sexuality," he blushes (did this both times I saw 
them).  That is so adorable.  And the guitar solos remain a hilarious 
parody of Pavement's off-kilter attack, sounding so absolutely wrong 
they're right.  A must see.  Oh yeah, I bought their single and it 
doesn't have my favorite song on it, but it's pretty good.  They 
should make another record soon.

Best set of the night, by far, was Skud Mountain Boys from western 
Massachusetts, who play country music right out of the heartland, if 
the heartland was in one of the outer circles of hell.  Which is to 
say that the writing is pretty dark ("I'm gonna burn the silo when you 
go" for example or "this combine's gonna cut you down and stack you 
up").  [I bought their cd, and at 15 songs, 60+ minutes, it qualifies 
as their version of _Every Song We Fucking Know_.] The songs are 
hauntingly pretty, and performed in a rigorously understated style 
that's just this side of too slow and too quiet.  But boy do they grow 
on you.  Live, the Boys pick it up a little, and the guitarist, a 
Nashville cat whose playing has all the earmarks of country session 
playing without being dull or overly mersh, carries the band as he 
alternates between steel and standard.  Plus, they cover the Jimmy 
Webb classic "Where's the Playground, Susie?" This is the real New 

Finally, I regret to say that the Veronica Cartrights who had the 
misfortune of headlining, tried very hard and unsuccessfully to whip 
some enthusiasm into their dwindling audience.  We stayed, to the 
bitter end, and they remained profoundly ordinary throughout.  I 
recommend early retirement, for all concerned.

This week, too many shows.  Shellac! Rattleheater! Dambuilders! Versus 
and Small Factory! If I wanted to really kill myself, Helium! Updates 
to follow, if I survive.



From: bh813@freenet.carleton.ca (Jon Georgekish-Watt)
elevator to hell, versus

elevator to hell (lp)

elevator to hell is the melodramatic name of rick white's (of eric's 
trip) latest solo/side project...this record sounds like "forever 
again" (eric's trip's latest lp) as performed by an individual and not 
a band...in other words it's got that same terminally depressing feel, 
but it's more spare and experimental...

it's really depressing, as i said, but it's actually not as 
suicidal-sounding as i was expecting, which is a bit weird but also a 
relief...the music itself is pretty upbeat, even though the lyrics are 
sad...rick pretty much sums it up i think, when he says: "i've got a 
girl problem/i've got a drug problem"...tara herself (as in the 
original "love tara") makes various appearances here but it's weird to 
hear rick share vocals with someone who isn't julie...i suppose i'll 
get used to it...all in all this is a great record...highly 

versus "big head on"/"n.i.t.a." (7")

a really cool, typically-versus, soft/loud/soft, and catchy as hell 
a-side makes this single worth owning...unfortunately the b-side isn't 
so hot...i suppose it's forgivable because it's a cover...still, 
people shouldn't cover songs that aren't as good as their 

umm...guess that's it for now...buy buy...


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From: IanChriste@aol.com
ANNOUNCE:  Smack Dab Tour

Smack Dab, the showcase vehicle for one of New York's weirdest and greatest
songwriting talents, Miss Linda Hagood, are touring in support of their 2nd
Homestead LP, Majestic Root.  Go see them because they are special.

I am reprinting the trio's tour agenda here because the names of these clubs
are so ridiculous:

April  4       St. Louis, Cicero's
April  5       Columbia, Basement
April  6       Kansas City, The Grand Emporium
April  9       Chicago, Lounge Ax
April 10       Iowa City, Gabe's
April 11       Detroit, Zoot's Coffee House
April 12       Columbus, Bernie's Distillery
April 13       Pittsburgh, Bloomfield Bridge Tavern


From: Fashcen@aol.com
AD: Fashion Central 7"

FASHION CENTRAL 7"..............I don't think that anybody is going to 
ever acknowledge this single including Spinart, so I'll mention it 
myself.  This is one my personal favorite recordings and it includes 
"Adeline", "Count Me In", and "Half A Mind Of Your Own".  I'm not sure 
where it is available, but you can always write to Spinart and get a 
          spinART    P.O. Box 1798   New York, NY 10156-1798

                             Michael Hearst / Fashion Central


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