Feeling like Bob Newhart Taking the subway in the rain ############################# Indie List Digest! November 11, 1995 Volume 4 Number 44 ############################# ADMIN: experimental searchable index of the Indie-List Miles Dethmuffen, Papas Fritas Cognitive Mapping comp., Joe Meek See More Glass, Bus, TJSA, karate!, et al. my mecca, yr mecca ANNOUNCE: Indie-List Exchange ANNOUNCE: Secret Show! 11/15/95 @ the Magnatroid in Chicago ANNOUNCE: Next Festival ANNOUNCE: Spring Benefit @ U.R.I. Work, and then our ISP went down. Maybe Saturday is the perfect IL day, after all! -es From: Mark Cornick <mark@evol.resnet.jmu.edu> ADMIN: experimental searchable index of the Indie-List OK, here's something useful to try out: the evol archive of Indie-List is now indexed and searchable via the web. This is still sort of experimental, so I'd appreciate people trying it out. It's just a simple WAIS search, so we're not talking about highly refined results here, but it should be adequate. (As long as you don't search on something that appears in every issue, like "Sean Murphy" :) )Anyway, give it a try. http://evol.resnet.jmu.edu/indie/ Thanks --mark -- Mark Cornick = cornicms@jmu.edu = mark@evol.resnet.jmu.edu http://evol.resnet.jmu.edu/~mark/ * finger for PGP pub key <------------------------------> From: BocAd@aol.com Miles Dethmuffen, Papas Fritas Here are a couple of new records that should interest intelligent guitar pop fans of all ages everywhere. MILES DETHMUFFEN - Miles Dethmuffen (CD) This Boston band has been putting out fine bittersweet pop records for five years now (previous output includes two albums, a single, and some compilation tracks) and they're long overdue for greater recognition. Their unusually sensitive and intelligent lyrics set them apart from others in the genre, but they're great to listen to whether you're feeling happy or sad. This 6-song release continues the tradition. The best among these well-crafted tracks are "White After Labor Day," the voice rising to reflect ever greater levels of emotion, and "Heroin Poster Girl," which pulls off the neat trick of being both sad and catchy - both qualities managing to involve the listener in the music in different ways. Nice male/female vocal intertwining, too. This one is on Summerville Records, c/o Chris Porter Productions, P.O. Box 390149, Cambridge MA 02139. You can e-mail the band at Dethmuffen@aol.com for more info, too. PAPAS FRITAS - Papas Fritas (CD) "Pop has freed us" is the saying of this DIY trio. They make the kind of pop music that will infatuate you. Many of the songs provide that little thrill that lets you know you're hearing something special. Although their previous output has been little more than extremely rough and sloppy home recordings, don't be dissuaded - they've got an indie record deal now, and they've not only improved, but have become surprisingly adept at making home recording work for them. This has a fresh, immediate, minimal-yet-somehow-full sound. You can tell the guitar is coming from one little speaker, yet it's appropriate. They manage to emphasize beats without the expected crash cymbals in "Afterall." They raise the intensity of the chorus in "Holiday" without adding an additional guitar track. They create a marvelous sense of harmony in "Kids Don't Mind" without playing any chords. Clever little extras like tambourine, piano, various bells, and lots of extra vocals slyly collaborate to create a warm, homespun sound. The sense of intimacy is heightened by the inviting songs that make them seem like a group of people rather than a group of musicians. Technical proficiency is not Papas Fritas' forte, but this drawback ceases to be a distraction after a couple of listens as the band's other values, good songs and clever arrangements, charm you. It's on Minty Fresh records, so should be widely available. Cheers, everyone. <------------------------------> From: nicholas@merlin.nando.net Cognitive Mapping comp., Joe Meek The following reviews are from the Chapel Hill band Minerva Strain's newsletter, written and submitted to you by band member Nick Lingg (nicholas@merlin.nando.net) Cognitive Mapping Vol. 2 (Various Artists) on Chapel Hill's Friction Media Label: Sure, we (Minerva Strain) are on this CD, but even if we weren't, we'd list as one of our favorite CDs of the year. It's got dozens of songs, a lot of which are pure gems (especially Analogue, Trailer Bride, and Protoblast). This group's first comp., a 1994 cassette, was a well done effort, but they've really got their shit together for this second volume. It flows from song to song much like a really good radio shift on Chapel Hill's WXYC would. There's still a few experimental-tape-type pieces on here (Mr. Meridies and Jeff Robins being my favorites), as on the first cassette, but they are usually shorter and arguably more interesting. The mix of well-known bands with lesser knowns is well done, and the side project pieces by local rockers such as Polvo's Dave Brylawski and Malachai (Zen Frisbee's Laird Dixon, Bicentennial Quarters' Chris Eubank, and ex-Angel of Epistemology Sara Bell) are some of the best tracks on here. "It's Hard to Believe It: The Amazing World of Joe Meek" (Various Artists) on the amazing Razor and Tie label: Joe Meek was a British producer in the early '60s (he was actually the first independent British producer/engineer) who experimented with recording methods such as distortion, compression, echo, and overdubbing. This CD is but a small sampling of the records he put out, and it lives up to the moniker of "amazing." It kicks off with the most well known of Joe's records, "Telstar" by The Tornados, and showcases a variety of Joe's studio magic. Just last night I watched part one of the PBS Rock and Roll documentary and they spent an hour on producers, mainly Phil Spector. Joe Meek would have fit right into the program. He was arguably as much a genius as Spector or George Martin and has had an influence on a lot of today's artists, such as Stereolab, The Fall, and XTC. It's worth the price of the CD just to have Telstar and the two cuts by the Blue Men (the band used on Joe's 1960 "Stereo Fantasy" album titled "I Hear A New World" - a concept record about other worlds such as Saroo where the Bublight glows). I can't get this CD out of my car stereo. Amazing! <------------------------------> From: silverst@ils.nwu.edu (Steve Silverstein) See More Glass, Bus, TJSA, karate!, et al. More reviews for this week... See More Glass/Bus split cassette (Omnibus/P.O. Box 4522/Davis, CA 95617)-- See More Glass wins big points for the clever name here. Kind of Shrimper-y 4-track ramblings, except (1) from Northern CA, and (2) there's this really weird hardcore sort of influence that makes it stand out. Makes the vocals a bit hard to listen at times but brings it a totally different compositional side. Bus are apparently Davis, CA's equivalent of Chapel Hill's the Raymond Brake, younger siblings with the interlocking-2-guitar thing down quite well. Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments--Punk Rock Secret 7" (Bag of Hammers/P.O. Box 928/Seattle, WA 98111)--Retro. Very retro. Late '70s style. From the simple packaging to the weird cover renditions on the B-side to the very title of the A-side song. Done well, though. karate!--Death Kit 7" (The Self-Starter Foundation/P.O. Box 1776/Horsham, PA 19044)--This 7" shows the side of karate! that brings out the Codeine comparisons. Not quite that minimal, but definitely evokes a similar moodiness. Catchier songwriting, though, than Codeine. The A-side features the fascinating but incomprehensible lyric "Today I'm 17 again, again" while the B-side, "Nerve," appears in a different version on the Secret Stars cassette. A strong debut. B. Flower--Strings 7" (Sugarfrost/149 Wellbrow Road/Walton, Liverpool L4 6T4/ UK)--The best pop 7" I've bought in ages. Kind of like ELO on a low budget, maybe, only not really? B. Flower are from Japan and sing in Japanese. They also make the most beautiful, well-orchestrated pop songs I've heard in ages. These 2 complement each other well and vary from simple acoustic sections to much fuller parts. Really beautiful. various artists--A Tribute to Prince cassette (no label easily identified)--The concept is a bunch of Shrimper-type bands (Paste, Bugskull, Refrigerator, etc.) doing Prince songs. An interesting concept, but I'm not totally sold on the result. It's really fun as a novelty for one listen, and I got to hear a lot of bands that seem really good. But having a bunch of bands doing really sentimental versions of Prince's really macho stylings just doesn't hold up for me, beyond the novelty of it. I'd love to hear originals from a lot of the bands I'd never heard before, though. Bugskull--Phantasies and Senseitions LP/CD (RoadCone / <roadcone@teleport.com>)--One of my favorite new albums. A really great mix of really creative use of the 4-track with really catchy songs. One song ("Inhuman") starts with this weird rumbling noise, out of which a guitar and voices appear really subtly. Other parts capture their live sound (kind of the Grifters gone AM radio) more directly. Mixes a variety of styles really well for a great end result. Panel Donor--Panel Donor CD (Lotuspool/P. O. Box 442277/Lawrence, KS 66044)-- Sort of a mix between the Poster Children and Rodan? This record is not quite as full as either of those bands because there is only one guitarist. Panel Donor have since added a second guitar, making the songs that much more interesting. This album does benefit from creative and tasteful use of synths, which the band doesn't employ live. I'd never heard of this band until I moved to the Midwest, and was really pleasantly surprised. Von Ryan's Express/Laurels split 7" (Over the Counter/P. O. Box 35/Providence, RI 02901)--The Von Ryan's Express song, "Knucklehead Hunter," is an earlier and somewhat different version of a song which would later appear on Thee Hydrogen Terrors EP. The Laurels song, "Violence," is slow and grinding with buried vocals. Both bands have undergone line-up and stylistic changes since this 7", though only one has changed its name. This single does a good job of capturing how each sounded then. The contrast in graphic design between Von Ryan's cheap look and the Laurels' more professional style is also quite funny. Mr. Krummenacher's Fifth Business--The Prince of Lies 7" (Magnetic/ <magnetic@netcom.com>)--The latest release from Victor Krummenacher (ex-Monks of Doom/Camper van Beethoven) displays his latest effort to combine '70s prog with a more pop sensibility. This is a lot more pop direction than the last 2 Monks albums, though the vocals are still his distinct '70s sound. Big complaint: Not only do the 2 sides of the single spin at different speeds, the 7" doesn't even say so anywhere on the packaging. Arf! That's enough for now... -Steve <------------------------------> From: dann medin <DLM94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> my mecca, yr mecca hi dood. everything's final on the moving tip, & i'll be studying abroad in london as of 7 january 1996. if you have information on things to do, or would just like to get in touch before i came over, please send me a note. i'm pretty clueless on where to start. shows, shows... 7 october-capsize 7, archers of loaf, throwing muses @ lupo's in providence: i reviewed capsize 7 in the cmj review. pretty much of the same thing. strong energetic music performed well live that ends up in the "ok" department. nothing special, nothing annoying. the bassist still looks like a monkey, of which i approved. the archers are large. there were indeed weezer shirts in the homemade d.i.y. moshpit short of 13 years. since they only played one song off of "vee vee" though, they weren't sure of what to do. some excellent new toons, one of which was about a whale in alaska. rad. we left when the muses came on. magic hour, william hooker, band that sounds like world music-14.10 @ wesleyan university middletown: the first band was good live, they'll be on the twisted village label & sound like they'll be playing the knitting factory ver soon. excellent drummer. both hooker & the magic hour were solid. two of the consistantly on-the-mark live performing bands in the last few years. the people @ the show sucked so much (we all look so good and act so snobby so people will think that we're from olympia) i've blocked out other details of the show. sorry. people that pay nearly $30,000 for an education and act like everyone else is privileged but them are stupid. 21.10-my little sister's bat mitzvah: the djs were horrible. all the kids threw food. 22.10-candy machine @ the red barn in northampton: another great live band. played many new songs, which were all enjoyable & somewhat like the ones on their most recent album. i wonder if it's just me, maybe i totally suck & everyone else is right on, because i just realized that i was about to criticze the majority of the audience again. style's fun and all, it just makes me crabby when folks think that emo-core or thriftgear are not only clothes to wear but an excuse to sneer @ strangers or be really important and DIFFERENT. as in, LOOK @ ME, I'M NOT LIKE YOU! I'M DIFFERENT, MISERABLE, & DESPISE YOU ALL! head like a hole, i feel yr pain. right. rant. sorry. it's probably me. me and my big clique. 26.10-man... or astroman? middle east, boston: not a band to be judged by their recordings. a damn good live show, complete w/tons of TVs showing cheesy space & monster movie footage, outfits, space banter, and a 7 foot tall bass-playing robot. a phat & all that time. if you haven't heard, surf music about outer space. recommended live. oops. the day before, 25.10, was jawbreaker, jawbox, and serpico @ uconn. serpico sounded like a bad karp. no, i didn't even stay long enough to really judge fairly, as to whether or not karp is a fair reference band. enough. jawbox, one of my long-time favorites, were extremely disappointing. the sound was very loud, the stage moves (some of them) seemed semi-melodramatic, and the new songs did not interest (i liked two out of 6 or 7). we'll see what happens when the new album comes out-they hit the studio in january. jawbreaker, whose music i've happened to love but had recently come to be frustrated with (an album with the vocals on "dear you" provide ample reasoning to justify making fun of lyrics like "i love you more than i ever loved anyone before or anyone to come" or "did not no one ever lead a life so hard?"). surprisingly enough, they didn't even play much of the new album. 3 songs in 45 minutes, two of which were good ones ("accident prone" & "i love you so much..."). lots and lots of energy. all of my favorites except fr "bivouac," which was edited out due to unforseen time constraints. albums i have been digging: barry black ("cockroaches" is one my favorite songs this year. mad ventures influence.), karp's "suplex" (they've gone from screaming their lungs out about cavities to singing together in semi-high & whiny pitches about rollerderby star bobby fever), and the new cornershop (amazing beats, i wish that mc solaar would pair up w/them) disc have all been great. older stuff that i've recently acquired but enjoy much: john coltrane's "sun ship" & "inter stellar" (both in the '65-'67 'a love supreme' period, my favorite for 'trane... beautiful melodies interspersed by unconventionally expressive solos), max roach's "we insist! freedom now suite" (with special guests olatunji, abbey lincoln, and coleman hawkins... an unbelievable record), and a couple of old herbie hancocks (they're ok but don't really compare. pre-funk stuff, one of them has grant green on it, who was a great player in his own right. basic straight jazz). karp, unsane, godheadsilo (sub pop?), fitz of depression, and sun ra arkestra all this month. whee. take care, xoxo. <------------------------------> From: hhahn@students.wisc.edu (ILx) ANNOUNCE: Indie-List Exchange What is the Indie-L exchange? ----------------------------- ILx is a mailing list, under the aegis of Indie-L but separate, conceived as a forum to promote the exchange of indie music. This encompasses sales and trades of indie CDs, vinyl, and cassettes. Both 'for sale' and 'wanted' posts are encouraged. Mailings go out weekly on Sundays, contingent on the amount of traffic. Each issue will be a list of items offered for sale or wanted along with the name and e-mail address of the person to contact. All business should be done privately; the sole purpose of the list to to inform you who to contact. How do I subscribe? ------------------- Send a message to <hhahn@students.wisc.edu> asking to subscribe. A note with more detailed information will be sent to you as confirmation. Information and the current issue of the ILx can be browsed at: <http://apollo.ahabs.wisc.edu/individuals/students/hahn/ilx.html> -Harry <------------------------------> From: teg3@midway.uchicago.edu (Ted E. Gray) ANNOUNCE: Secret Show! 11/15/95 @ the Magnatroid in Chicago Hi! Just wanted to invite all the indie list subscribers to a great show coming up that won't be announced to the general public. My band DragKing will be playing with the Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 at the Magnatroid on Wed night the 15th. The show begins at 10PM. If you've ever been to the Magnatroid you would know why we can't really let to many people know about this show. The Magnatroid is a barely legal performance space, in the former boiler room, of a loft building in the Wicker Park neighborhood of Chicago. It's an amazing space. Strange old ovens and industrial fixtures all around. Massively high ceilings and a room the size of most people living room! It should be a very intimate setting. The Magnatroid is located at 2525 West Moffit, just south of where Milwaukee crosses Western. It's a little hard to find. Look for the big red brick loft building and you'll see an alley going towards the back on the right side of the building. Go back around the back of the building and you should find it. The door has a lot of great band posters and stickers on it. This show will truly be a journey into the underground. Don't tell too many people about it cause the police might come and we'll all get busted! It's BYOB... some sort of admission will be charged for the Thinkin' Fellers sake. Rock on Chicago Rock over London! <------------------------------> From: daniel recht <dan_adar@mail.netvision.net.il> ANNOUNCE: Next Festival Next Festival An International Music Festival - Tel-Aviv 1996 The first international music festival of Tel Aviv, Next, will be held in March 1996 and will host a wide range of performers from Israel and abroad. Its organizers, who include Rami Fortis, a former member of Minimal Compact, are seeking "artists or bands from abroad whose musical activities are relevant to the artistic concept of the festival." Send recordings and promotional materials to email: dan_adar@netvision.net.il Fax: 972-3-6203543 P.O. Box 26546 Tel-Aviv 61294 ISRAEL <------------------------------> From: Renee Bessette <RBES3493@URIACC.URI.EDU> ANNOUNCE: Spring Benefit @ U.R.I. ANNOUNCEMENT: P.O.W.E.R. (People Organized for Women's Equality and Resilience of the UNiversity of Rhode Island are planning a benefit concert for this spring on Saturday, March 30, at the University of Rhode Island. We are hoping to be backed by Rock for Choice, but that is tentative. If you are in band in the Boston/Providence/NYC area and are interested in participating, please e-mail Renee Bessette at rbes3493@uriacc.uri.edu by November 30. Thanks and rock on! <------------------------------------------------------------> The Indie-List Digest is published weekly (Mondays) or more often by the Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. What Who Where Editors Eric Sinclair esinclai@tezcat.com Anne Zender azender@tezcat.c